• SONAR
  • File/Folder Structure is completely messed up (p.6)
2014/03/22 07:52:07
Kev999
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Kev999
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...there is a separator in the menu with DX plug-ins above the line...

...implying that later versions of Sonar are different...

This is true. It changes in X3. The separator is gone in favor of folders to hold the different plug-in formats.


Sorry about that, I never suspected that X3 would be different.
2014/03/22 11:24:44
ShellstaX
Re Rapture:
I've had a bit of a play and think I can explain your situation (which ain't too bad, if an issue at all) ...
 
The Rapture install only asks for 2 locations:
1. An install location
---- for you E:\Program Files\Cakewalk\Rapture
2. A VST install location
---- under which it'll put \Rapture\rapture.dll
 (I tested on a 32bit Vista box ;) - I seem to recall my 64bit Win8 install asked whether you want to do an x32 or x64 install as an initial radio button check - hence still only asks for one VST location per install).
 
You don't get a choice where the Programs Tree goes (EG, MIDI, Programs, Sample Pool, SG). It goes to C:\ProgramData\Cakewalk\Rapture. (Actually, it probably goes to where the %ProgramData% environment variable is defined - you can check it via Run(Win-R)>cmd ; echo %ProgramData% ; exit ).
 
So your mate has simply chosen to install to your second drive, which is quite a 'normal' thing to do.
Is the speed of the drive noticeable? (I'd have thought 5400 rpm should work OK).
 
If you really wanted to change it you could do a (backup) uninstall/reinstall.
Take a note of your serial number first (click on the Rapture logo (top right)) - it's needed during installation.
Even if you don't have the install file, you should be able to download it from your Cakewalk Store Account (your serial number will be there too). (It's also retrievable from the registry - I can help, as I'm sure others can).
Or:
Issue 200 of Computer Music magazine (~$5 iStore, Google Newstand, Zinio) has the full version of Rapture.
 
RE: VSTs
[It appears I still can't post that link].
 
Yeah - a bit of an issue if things are all over the place.
BUT ... I've read advice NOT to do a full disk VST Scan. (Sonar can get hung/crash at startup).
 
I had my first play with Plugin Manager tonight. It looks like your organization can be handled with a Layout File (.pgl) - (top right). Sonar Studio has a layout similar to the one you've described for effects (X3 Studio Effects - C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\Cakewalk\SONAR X3 Studio\Plug-in Menu Layouts\X3 Studio Effects.pgl). They are also under C:\ProgramData\Cakewalk\... (search for .pgl).
 
2014/03/25 23:46:20
seed
awesome
yes thanks to you good folks i'm pretty sure i know what needs to be done
i think all of the multisample stuff is in the correct place and the only thing i need to do is move my expansion program files to the right place
we shall see - i'm going to wait awhile before attempting this.  just a bit paranoid while i'm busy using rapture alot in my first tune :)
 
 
 
MOVING on.....i would love to purchase this sample pack as i would think i can use the .WAVs in a software like dropzone?  is that the best cakewalk supplied that there is?
the other big question - where would i put all of these WAVs????  :)
http://ultimae.com/en/releases/aes-dana-aethers-01-sample-library-usb-key/index.html
 
 
2014/03/26 12:53:50
ShellstaX
You can import .wav directly into an Audio Track.
 
You'd store it in e.g, an Aethers directory in your Cakewalk Content > Audio Library
 
I see it comes in Kotakt format. Kontact 5 Player is a free download (I haven't tried it) ... obviously to lure you into the full product ;).
2014/03/26 12:57:55
seed
well i haven't purchased or anything yet but i'm assuming many of these to be short samples that can be "played"?
wouldn't dropzone be ideal for this?
i'm not too versed in that one just yet
 
thanks as always shellstax!
 
 
edit:  ok i've no idea where this cakewalk content folder is
god knows what drive it's even on with this thing :-/
 
2014/03/26 13:24:11
ShellstaX
Yeah, that's what it looks like ... many sound bites to loop etc to create your own soundscapes. There may be some example compositions.
 
Dunno much about Dropzone. Loaded it to test I had it :).
 
Cakewalk Content will be easily found and likely auto directed to when you right click on an audio track and choose Import Audio. Also in Browser tree. Mine is top level C:\.
2014/03/26 18:18:13
seed
i guess i was auto directed properly?
 
the path it pointed me to was "my documents>cakewalk>sonar 8.5>sample content"
 
i think i need to learn a bit more about how i can use these before doing anything sudden :)
 
 
 
 
2014/03/26 18:29:49
ShellstaX
No - that's more likely the last place you navigated to / loaded from. Look for directories like Audio Library (and MIDI Library). It's just a common location to hold all your sound bites.
2014/03/26 18:33:48
seed
i don't have one or something
file search turned up nothing
this is my life!
 
ok now i'm learning about the cakewalk media browser and when i pull that up it points to my documents>cakewalk>sonar>sample content
 
content location dropdown doesn't show "audio library"
 
 
 
EDIT - ok....is it possible that yall are using Sonar X3 or whatever and that I *shouldn't* have an "audio library" folder per se in producer 8.5?
i say this because i've now seen 2 references to this "sample content" folder that is leading me to believe this is my version of what you are describing.  the 2nd one just appeared in the sonar 7 power book (yes that old).  he's describing importing audio and using the browser and the screen shot provided in the book is this exact same "sample content" folder i'm describing (with MIDI groove clips and Metronome Groove Clips folders.)
and now i'm learning about how to set up the defaults so i guess in the end in many ways it doesn't matter WHERE i put my loops/samples as long as i know where to find them and set the default to look there?
i know the whole keep the drives separate thing but honestly my stuff is so all over the place i couldn't even tell you which drive sonar itself is running out of
 
lol
 
 
 
 
 
 
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