For years I've used Sonar to compile/edit backing tracks for my band which we play live through my Roland Fantom X6 synth/workstation.  I save each song in normal Sonar format but also 'save as' to export it as a type 1 MIDI file in order to load it onto the Fantom.  I mute some tracks sometimes and these were always accordingly ignored when saving the project as a MIDI file.
 
Since applying X3d yesterday this seems broken as muted tracks still get saved with the MIDI file instead of being ignored, and can be heard playing when I play the file on my Fantom.   I can replicate this and have submitted a CWBRN.

Please can you give us clear steps sequential steps to repro right from the beginning like a shopping list.
Please see if you can reproduce this with a NEW project rather than an old one.
e.g.
STEPS TO REPRODUCE
 
1) Create new project.
2)) Insert MIDI track.
 
Over to you... :)
 
Thanks...

Did some more tests this morning.  Definitely broken by X3d, and moreover it's broken for old as well as new post-X3d work.
 
Steps:
- Start a project, put in some MIDI notes on some tracks
- Or, import a commercial MIDI file
- Click the Mute button on one or more tracks.
- Save the project as a MIDI file type 1 (i.e. multitrack)
- Close project
- Reopen project from the above MIDI file
- Muted tracks no longer muted
 
I can work around this by deleting the tracks before saving but this could be dangerous if I inadvertently save with the tracks deleted.
 
This is a big issue for me.

John
 
I can reproduce however I'm not sure if MIDI type 1 supports Mute?
I looked on the internet and couldn't see anything to confirm this.
RIFF MIDI format works the way you want it.

Hi Alex
It has since Sonar 2, which is how long I've been editing commercial MIDI files in Sonar for use in our live band!
I mute tracks covered by the live musicians but I never deleted them just in case I needed them for reference as a later date.
 
I'll be interested in the response I get to my CWBRN, although in the past my CWBRNs have taken months to be responded to.
 
John
 
 

Would you mind posting your CWBRN here?

Can anybody else in these forums definitively say that MIDI type 1 supports mutes?
 
Thanks

(Typo in there I see, the 'Summary' X1d should of course be X3d)

Thanks in my unofficial bug list. Keep us updated.

According to here not fixed in X3E:
http://forum.cakewalk.com...-m3010004.aspx#3010005

In reference to MIDI export won't save mutes - well, err "MUTE"  is NOT part of the midi spec - in which case it is not a fault....if one wants a "muted" midi track, then the only two options are to set the volume to 0 , or insert a CC 11 (expression) with a value of 0. THe "mute" as per the track button in Sonar quite correctly does not get saved to a midi file.
 
Now unless I have misunderstood the bug, then it should not be listed as such. No offence meant at all, truly.