• SONAR
  • USB assignments not consistent??
2014/03/01 23:36:58
FredprogGH
Hey everyone-
 
I'm using X3 on a Toshiba Satellite L505D (Win7 Home Premium SP1)  but I had the same problem before with 8.5 on a completely different machine...
 
What's going on is this:  When I use Sonar for live shows (basically as a VST host) I have four MIDI ports coming in:  an Emu 0404, a MIDISport 2x4 and an Oxygen controller keyboard running via USB directly.  So, it's four ports on 3 USB inputs.  My problem is that I set my inputs to control specific soft synths on specific tracks in Sonar, save it, and when I open it next time it's randomly reassigned everything.  It recognizes my devices, but say, if I had the Oxygen set for the organ VST before, now it's assigned to the piano.  I have to reset them all every time I boot up.  I always plug everything into the same physical ports and open Sonar after everything is plugged in and running.  Is there ANY way to get my song files to remember what input goes with what?  This s**t is killing me!!
 
Thanks!
 
Fred
2014/03/07 10:41:08
FredprogGH
Nothing?? 
2014/03/07 14:13:01
slartabartfast
Wildly speculative and potentially dangerous comment:
 
I suspect that the problem is not so much a Sonar issue as one of Windows re-assigning the devices attached to the USB ports on every boot based on a query of the device identifier, rather than to the physical USB port.
This may provide an answer. But I have not tried it.
 
https://www.actineon.com/wp-content/downloads/USB-Serial-Port-Mapping.pdf
 
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/jj649944(v=vs.85).aspx
 
If you have the balls to try it please let us know how it goes.
 
2014/03/07 14:24:59
robert_e_bone
I am a little confused.
 
Are you saying that you have each track's Midi Input device set to a particular midi controller, and that Sonar is changing the settings for those particular tracks?
 
I have never had that happen - so, please detail your track assignments and explain a bit more.
 
Thanks, 
 
Bob Bone
 
2014/03/07 14:31:10
Cactus Music
And one other thing I'd try is download http://www.cantabilesoftware.com/
 
And there are a few others too.
2014/03/07 18:26:58
FredprogGH

Are you saying that you have each track's Midi Input device set to a particular midi controller, and that Sonar is changing the settings for those particular tracks?

Yep!  That's what I'm saying- every time I reboot, whether I've disconnected anything or not. I thought it might be a Windowz thing as well but I seem to have found the fix though- I never bothered to assign "friendly names" to those devices in Sonar.  Doing that seems to take precedence over the machine assigned device names and so far (fingers crossed) now everything comes up the same when I reboot.  So there you go... 
2014/03/07 20:53:43
robert_e_bone
well - OK - hope that does the job for you - wahoo, if so. :)
 
Bob Bone
2014/03/11 19:56:32
Splat
FredprogGH

Are you saying that you have each track's Midi Input device set to a particular midi controller, and that Sonar is changing the settings for those particular tracks?

Yep!  That's what I'm saying- every time I reboot, whether I've disconnected anything or not. I thought it might be a Windowz thing as well but I seem to have found the fix though- I never bothered to assign "friendly names" to those devices in Sonar.  Doing that seems to take precedence over the machine assigned device names and so far (fingers crossed) now everything comes up the same when I reboot.  So there you go... 




Wow that's interesting, I never bothered with friendly names.. Thankyou..
2014/03/11 20:58:54
joden
Might be just co-incidence - using a friendly name is only a name thing, it does not change the USB assignments in the OS (that is 100% controlled by Windows). You must ensure ALL USB ports are connected in the same way (even if via a hub - ie they must retain the same hub port as well) otherwise when windows reboots it will re-assign.
 
Also disable Selective USB Suspend (Control Panel - Power - Change Plans Settings - Change Advanced Power settings) I find this really knocks out a lot of USB gremlins for me in 7 and 8
2014/03/11 20:59:03
mmorgan
+1 for friendly names. Seriously.
 
Regards,
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