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  • Specific Zoom Drag Issue (p.2)
2013/12/23 13:55:33
Keni
BTW...
 
weird that I see in this project it zooms two tracks above it as well and all to the limited size...?
 
 
 
2013/12/23 13:56:56
Splat
Keni Could you look at my specific steps please in #1, can you reproduce?

Thanks
2013/12/23 14:20:20
Keni
CakeAlexS
Keni Could you look at my specific steps please in #1, can you reproduce?

Thanks




No...
 
I cannot reproduce it as my projects are not zooming correctly no matter how many times I repeat or repeat and undo the action...
 
If I start with a new/clean project and create 4 tracks with audio and do the process, they zoom correctly the first time....
 
I'll bet there are more elements involved that aren't in your report... Just as I'm suspecting with mine...
 
Keni
 
2013/12/23 15:46:35
mettelus
This is a reason why I would really love a "community Gobbler" since trying to envision things gets flaky at times. It would be nice to know the reason "why" rather than have things festering about.
2013/12/28 12:03:58
Lord Tim
OK guys, I've been playing around and think I've found something. Give this a go:
 
1. Create a new project.
 
2. Make 3 folders.
 
3. Record a handful of tracks (audio or MIDI). Move these tracks into the folders so you have at least 1 or more track in each folder, and have 3 tracks alone outside of the folders.
 
4. Move the non-foldered tracks to the top of the track view so you have the 3 tracks, then 3 folders with tracks inside them underneath. Make sure each folder is CLOSED.
 
5. Z-Drag over the top of any of the non-foldered tracks at the top. It'll work correctly no matter what you do - be it single tracks or multiple tracks.
 
6. Now move the non-foldered tracks to the bottom of the track view so the folders are first. Z-Drag on any or all of those tracks and... zoom is screwy. Sometimes you'll get no zoom, sometimes if you scroll up you'll find the first one is maximised but the others aren't.
 
7. Open the first folder, Z-Drag across parts of it. It'll work correctly. Close the first folder.
 
8. Open the second folder. Z-Drag across parts of it. Same zoom issues as the non-foldered tracks when they were moved to the bottom. This will also happen with the third folder too.
 
9. Now open all of the folders. Z-Drag works correctly on the entire project.
 
From what I've been able to work out, zoom works correctly for every track until it encounters a closed folder and then every track after that does not zoom correctly.
 
Hopefully this isn't just a screwy project of mine and can be reproduced so it can be fixed. :)
 
 
2013/12/28 12:59:33
Keni
Lord Tim
OK guys, I've been playing around and think I've found something. Give this a go:
 
1. Create a new project.
 
2. Make 3 folders.
 
3. Record a handful of tracks (audio or MIDI). Move these tracks into the folders so you have at least 1 or more track in each folder, and have 3 tracks alone outside of the folders.
 
4. Move the non-foldered tracks to the top of the track view so you have the 3 tracks, then 3 folders with tracks inside them underneath. Make sure each folder is CLOSED.
 
5. Z-Drag over the top of any of the non-foldered tracks at the top. It'll work correctly no matter what you do - be it single tracks or multiple tracks.
 
6. Now move the non-foldered tracks to the bottom of the track view so the folders are first. Z-Drag on any or all of those tracks and... zoom is screwy. Sometimes you'll get no zoom, sometimes if you scroll up you'll find the first one is maximised but the others aren't.
 
7. Open the first folder, Z-Drag across parts of it. It'll work correctly. Close the first folder.
 
8. Open the second folder. Z-Drag across parts of it. Same zoom issues as the non-foldered tracks when they were moved to the bottom. This will also happen with the third folder too.
 
9. Now open all of the folders. Z-Drag works correctly on the entire project.
 
From what I've been able to work out, zoom works correctly for every track until it encounters a closed folder and then every track after that does not zoom correctly.
 
Hopefully this isn't just a screwy project of mine and can be reproduced so it can be fixed. :)
 
 


Nice find Tim...

I just tested it in a few scenarios and I think you're on the trail of it...

Tracks above the folder zoom correctly and those below it do not... They don't even give the same results each time/situation, but it seems if they are below the folder, they do not work right!

Thanks... I think I'll go back to living without folders for a while and see how things feel...

Keni
2013/12/28 15:10:57
Splat
I can reproduce.
 
Tim these are extremely good steps to reproduce thankyou, you must have worked hard on this (I know it's quite time consuming to get it right).
 
Are you able to throw in your steps here, point Cakewalk to this thread, and give us an issue number?
http://www.cakewalk.com/support/contact/problemreport.aspx
 
Brilliant!
 
2013/12/28 18:31:00
Keni
More info on this?
 
I tested this by opening a project and copying a track below a folder to above it... the one above it zoomed fine. the one below continued to behave as in prior reports...
 
I then deleted the folder to see if that would clear things for the zoom on tracks below... But it only got close...
 
In other words, the zoom that results is closer to the zoom I selected but still not right... I believe I got two adjacent tracks within the screen height even tho I made certain to only select an area on one... Oh, and as I'm finding with scme of the other methods create the proper zoom but it is scriolled either part way or fully of screen and must be scrolled to...
 
Keni
 
2013/12/28 19:55:11
Lord Tim
Hey guys, great to see I'm not the only one!
 
It's a bit of a crazy time here now so I'm not sure I'll be able to do a report for a while, so if someone else could file one using my recipe, that'd be great.
 
One thing that I think someone should test before that is trying to zoom on tracks underneath a track that has take lanes enabled. So create 3 tracks, on the first one record a couple of extra lanes on there and explode the lane view so you can see all of them. It's possible this may act like the folder scenario where every track before the one with lanes will work fine with Z-Drag but every track after will be weird.
 
I haven't had time to sit in front of my work machine and try that out yet, so I could be way off mark but it's worth giving it a go before filing a bug report for the folders.
 
This is great stuff - good work, everyone! I'll try to check back on this thread when I have a few spare moments and see how it's all going. 
2013/12/28 20:07:41
Splat
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