• SONAR
  • Probably a simple fix but..... (p.2)
2014/03/20 17:36:41
gswitz
Yeah... Mine defaults to export at 32 bit and I have to change it to 24.
 
My computer plays 24 bit 44.1 wave files with no problem, but on older versions of windows, Windows Media Player required 16bit versions of files to play them.
 
I'm trying to guide you to see what works. I use an RME UCX and I definitely use ASIO. I can make sure it's working properly by watching Netflix or Youtube and hearing the sound just fine. Then, close all apps and long Sonar. It should work. Check your output assignments.
 
A Fireface is a good interface. We should be able to figure out what's wrong.
2014/03/20 19:06:36
ElRoc0 Tha Gr81
I posted another video. From tracking to playback http://youtu.be/cBe3LODK5T8
2014/03/20 19:36:15
NG
Five0SixBand
Sorry 








 




394.7 msec latency?! Buffer size is 4736 samples?!
 
lower it to the minimum you can and change it to Asio and see if that is better.
In my system I have Asio setting of 177 samples and 4 msec while the total round latency is 22msec. I have a Focusrite saffire audio interface (so yours should be better!).
2014/03/20 20:02:57
ElRoc0 Tha Gr81
ASIO works but limits me to 1 interface. That jacks up my entire set up. 
























2014/03/20 20:31:37
gswitz
So, in your second video, you're...
  • recording an Audio Track.
  • Using 2 interfaces at the same time
  • Are they sync locked? There needs to be a single timing master between the two interfaces.
  • Are the two interfaces set to the same sample rate?
  • I find it interesting that you get a normal wave form while recording and as soon as you hit stop it switches to what look like badly clipped signals.
2014/03/20 21:04:12
ElRoc0 Tha Gr81
gswitz
So, in your second video, you're...
  • recording an Audio Track.
    Yes
  • Using 2 interfaces at the same time
    No that's all the Motu 828mk2. On playback it's the RME.
  • Are they sync locked? There needs to be a single timing master between the two interfaces.
    No, They're not sync'd together. Separate firewire ports which locks them to the PC/software.
  • Are the two interfaces set to the same sample rate?
    Yes, 48K
  • I find it interesting that you get a normal wave form while recording and as soon as you hit stop it switches to what look like badly clipped signals.
    Exactly! That's baffling me also.



2014/03/20 21:14:20
ElRoc0 Tha Gr81
So just switched the motu back to ASIO and works fine. But not what I need. I really hope there's a way to use the wdm drivers with sonar or this was a HUGE waste of....
 
2014/03/20 21:21:03
gswitz
Do they both have SPIDF or optical ADAT? Either could be used to link the two devices and get one to be master and the other to be slave.
 
I think your problem is related to not have a single Master Clock.
 
Is it possible to replicate the problem when recording and auditioning with only one interface on at a time?
 
I checked and both units have SPIDF connections. If you plug those into each other (just use a standard stereo connector if you don't have fancy cables). Then modify one of the two interfaces to be master and the other to be slave then try to replicate your problem again.
2014/03/20 21:36:50
ElRoc0 Tha Gr81
gswitz
Do they both have SPIDF or optical ADAT? Either could be used to link the two devices and get one to be master and the other to be slave.

Yes
 
I think your problem is related to not have a single Master Clock.
 
Good observation does not hurt to try. 


Is it possible to replicate the problem when recording and auditioning with only one interface on at a time?
 
Not sure I understand. Don't think I can replicate the initial problem using only one interface. The problem was the attempt to use 2 interfaces. I may be misinterpreting your question.


I checked and both units have SPIDF connections. If you plug those into each other (just use a standard stereo connector if you don't have fancy cables). Then modify one of the two interfaces to be master and the other to be slave then try to replicate your problem again.

Yes they do both have spdif & word clock. I will try with word clock first. I do have a master clock which I've not used also. An Art SyncGen. Glad you thought of that. Hopefully we may solve the issue here.




2014/03/20 22:57:29
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
You cant record on the MOTU and playback on the RME without locking the two units to the same clock.
Connect the BNC wordclock of the FF to the wordclock of the MOTU and slave the motu to the RME device. You will have to set the 828 to use the incoming wordclock sync.
Alternatively you can use the ADAT out of the 828 into the FF ADAT input and use adat sync.
 
A much simpler solution is to use ADAT output from the 828 into the FF and use ASIO mode with just the fireface connected via firewire. The 828 will pass all its inputs digitally into the FF via ADAT optical and doesn't even need to be connected via firewire. This is a better solution since it doesn't saturate the firewire bus.
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