Sorry for being so thick headed Noel, but you've just described my question but not answered it. Are you saying that all mono to stereo plugs DO NOT WORK in Sonar...or just the WAVES ADT version???

*All* plugins do not work in mono->stereo mode where there is a single channel producing stereo. They will only work in mono->mono or stereo->stereo.

Got it. Thanks, ol pal. Give my best to yor talented missus, and keep amazing folks with both of you guy's chops and totally pro musicality. Ya talented bastard, ya!! :-)


I'll be headin back downstairs now.

Thanks :) chops are inversely proportional to the amount of work I do on SONAR unfortunately!
I bought some new studio gear so that might help motivate me.

Rock on, ol pal. Rock on!

I don't see a need for mono-to-stereo. I record mono sources all the time (vocals, guitar) with mono tracks, insert stereo plugs, get stereo outputs. Problem (if in fact there was one!) solved.

Anderton
I don't see a need for mono-to-stereo. I record mono sources all the time (vocals, guitar) with mono tracks, insert stereo plugs, get stereo outputs. Problem (if in fact there was one!) solved.

Me as well Craig.
 
As a matter of fact Olpal, I don't even have any of the mono plugs showing in my plugin manager. I HATE all the ones that Waves and UAD give me. But I've never had a problem using stereo plugs in mono tracks. At the end of the day, you're not going to get "stereo compression" or "eq". The only time it becomes something that would be stereo is when you use effects like delay or a chorus....phaser, reverb, you get the idea. But stuff like wah, over-drive/distortion, eq, compression, filters, and anything that is more a processing effect as opposed to an enhancement effect.....you won't see any issues just using the stereo versions in my opinion.
 
Now that said, you DO hear a difference with the new UAD Fairchild tube stuff. The mono version (which is also stereo) of the 660 to me sounds different than the 670 which is full stereo. Though they try to push one as "mono" they are both stereo yet sound like two different beasts. But for the most part, I don't think you'll ever run into any issues by just staying stereo unless you have some sort of weird routing need.
 
-Danny

Anderton
I don't see a need for mono-to-stereo. I record mono sources all the time (vocals, guitar) with mono tracks, insert stereo plugs, get stereo outputs. Problem (if in fact there was one!) solved.

But back to myolpal's (2nd?) question. Why does any mfr make a mono->stereo version? In what use case is it applicable?

From previous threads, with UAD at least, their genuine mono plugs use less DSP resource than stereo ones, but aren't usable in SONAR (this may have changed with X3E and recent updates to UAD plugs, so don't quote me!).

Hmmm...  I wonder if UAD also include Mono > Stereo plugins, and if so, if they also save resources since they're not completely mono?