• SONAR
  • Pops and crackles with a twist (p.3)
2013/12/21 13:26:44
Splat
> It may be a situation where they need to be "refreshed."
 
Exactly...
2013/12/21 14:07:50
Guitarmech111
I tried that just now and reset the values 4 times to make sure and closed SONAR each time. Still getting pops and clicks during playback after X3D.
 
I may just need to revert to X3C...
2013/12/21 14:14:37
Splat
Follow my steps to the letter I suggest.... The standing on one leg bit is especially important ;).
2013/12/21 14:21:53
Guitarmech111
lol, THAT is what I forgot!!!
 
seriously though, I knew you were going to say that and I couldn't figure out why, but I did follow your instruction to a 'T' minus the leg standing.
 
My thoughts on your post was wondering why SONAR would not be able to query it's own initialization file to get the desired buffer settings without having to force a change in the INI files. I even changed and kept the buffers from 256k to 512k for a little bit and still had issues. My UFX is a top performing audio interface and my PC is top performing with it's specs. I expect better performance than what the X3D patch is giving me.
 
I have been playing back flawlessly before X3D and I think it is time to go back and let the bakers come up with a better patch.
2013/12/21 14:45:53
Splat
Well what I'm writing here is hearsay, wish I could prove it. Maybe it's in my tiny little mind...
2013/12/21 14:58:30
Anderton
Guitarmech111
My thoughts on your post was wondering why SONAR would not be able to query it's own initialization file to get the desired buffer settings without having to force a change in the INI files.



It doesn't know what computer you're using, which interface, processor speed, how many plug-ins you typically use, etc.
 
I don't know why you keep having performance problems I can't replicate. I can't help but think it's some little software switch somewhere that's not set correctly.
2013/12/21 15:23:43
dan le
Hi everybody, over here I am lucky that I can still use WMD.
Once in a while, I just do a rescan via Wave Profiler, and all crackles and pops will be gone.
Also with WMD, I can change latency so quickly, like between 2.7ms when playing softsynth, and 12 ms during mixing.
But some day, when I changed interface, I won't be able to do that with Asio. since the newer interfaces usually work with ASIO only.
best.
 
 
2013/12/21 15:51:10
Guitarmech111
Craig, I am not the only one that seems to be having performance issues. If it is a switch and someone can suggest it to me for better performance, I am all for trying it. I live on the bleeding edge...
 
With that said, the audio profiler should know what settings to use based on the card profiling and driver settings I thought. It looks like there is some type of importing settings from prior installs too. Why all of a sudden would anyone have to reset and reestablish what was working? I don't have a clue. A user should not have to  reset a setting to something different and set it back to get better performance with the what they had in the first place.
 
I will keep trying switches if someone has suggestions. uninstall/reinstall of a product is not very long. I got used to it as a beta tester.
2013/12/21 18:25:05
Anderton
Guitarmech111
Craig, I am not the only one that seems to be having performance issues.



Agreed, but most are different, and not being experienced by the majority of users. This makes it harder to quantify and track down.
 
For example, I had performance issues with X2, but it was the processor changing state with Firewire (not USB) interfaces. Anyone who didn't use Firewire or had the processor states set to the same amount would not have encountered this problem and would not have been able to help me find a solution.
 
With X3d, I had performance issues but they were fixed simply by altering one of the cache settings.
 
If there was a truly systemic problem with the software, everyone would experience it. That would be a drag, but that would also make it really easy to narrow down the source of the problem. When only a handful of people experience a particular problem, and different handfuls experience different problems, it's much harder.
2013/12/21 18:41:38
Anderton
One more thing...if you visit any forums for interfaces, you would be convinced that no interface from any company works! I just checked the RME forums...freezes, problems with Mountain Lion and iPad Air, constant crash issues until restart, no signal in Totalmix after firmware update...the list goes on and on and on and on.
 
I'm not bashing on RME. Go to any internet forum involving digital audio and you will find you are not by any means unique. The only things that change are the software, the interfaces, and the computers...
 
Welcome to making music with computers in 2013! Oh, and to close on a happy note: It's not going to get any better because code and technology will continue to become more complex.
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