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  • FX Chain module resets X3c (p.3)
2013/11/24 12:04:30
scook
Transcending Music
And here are two final pieces of proof it is a bug. I tested the FX module in ProCh. and that retains input and output sliders.
Create it, save the project, close it, and reopen and the sliders are indeed in the right positions as you left them and saved
them.
 
The other is, if you leave the FX Chain in the FX bin, save the project, reopen it, the input and output settings are retained,
as they should!
 
So it is only when saving an actual FX Chain preset and reloading that where the input and output values reset to 0.




Saving a project should save all the settings. How is that comparable to saving a plug-in preset? It does suggest that projects and plug-ins are not the same. Submit the bug report if it makes you happy. Resorting to name calling seems a little hostile and unnecessary don't you think.
2013/11/24 12:05:12
Taurean Mixing
scook
Transcending Music
And here are two final pieces of proof it is a bug. I tested the FX module in ProCh. and that retains input and output sliders.
Create it, save the project, close it, and reopen and the sliders are indeed in the right positions as you left them and saved
them.
 
The other is, if you leave the FX Chain in the FX bin, save the project, reopen it, the input and output settings are retained,
as they should!
 
So it is only when saving an actual FX Chain preset and reloading that where the input and output values reset to 0.




Saving a project should save all the settings. How is that comparable to saving a plug-in preset? It does suggest that projects and plug-ins are not the same. Submit the bug report if it makes you happy.




What would be the point of saving a preset genius?
2013/11/24 12:07:10
scook
Transcending Music
 
What would be the point of saving a preset genius?


Because the preset was so good?
2013/11/24 12:09:30
Thatsastrat
Well I also see this as intended behavior. I would say that 98% of fx with gain adjustment in them would load at 0 for unity gain. Not until it was inserted into a project, then adjusted, and saved within a project, would I expect to see a different setting. I guess ymmv.
2013/11/24 12:10:37
Taurean Mixing
scook
Transcending Music
 
What would be the point of saving a preset genius?


Because the preset was so good?




lol yea OK. Have fun with your Abbot and Costello routine. You and Mr. 2 post can have fun going
in circles together. I've got work to do.
2013/11/24 12:11:36
T4
Apparently, you're the only one on planet earth that wants to have a gain staging value, that will be different for every single use, to start out at a value other than 0. And then call it a bug.

And, a fool? I'm not the genius barking about phantom bugs on a forum and then wondering everyone else is ignoring it. That gave me a great laugh, btw. Just call me mr. 1 post again because that proves your point.

The bottom line is that it's not a bug. If you want to use the same gain settings for every plugin in every situation then just write them down. But, I feel sorry for the poor souls that let you record/mix them.
2013/11/24 12:12:53
Taurean Mixing
Thatsastrat
Well I also see this as intended behavior. I would say that 98% of fx with gain adjustment in them would load at 0 for unity gain. Not until it was inserted into a project, then adjusted, and saved within a project, would I expect to see a different setting. I guess ymmv.




Thatsastrat, this is not ideal behavior due to pre-rendering chains on a continuous project like an album or something.
Unity gain can be handled manually, I see saving a preset, any preset, as saving what you intend for a particular task and
this behavior has slowed down a particular work flow I have.
2013/11/24 12:15:17
Taurean Mixing
T4
Apparently, you're the only one on planet earth that wants to have a gain staging value, that will be different for every single use, to start out at a value other than 0. And then call it a bug.

And, a fool? I'm not the genius barking about phantom bugs on a forum and then wondering everyone else is ignoring it. That gave me a great laugh, btw. Just call me mr. 1 post again because that proves your point.

The bottom line is that it's not a bug. If you want to use the same gain settings for every plugin in every situation then just write them down. But, I feel sorry for the poor souls that let you record/mix them.

 
I never said use the same settings for EVERY situation, you said that. Dude, don't worry about it, this is past your understanding
of something fundamental. Just because the majority sees something as "intentional" it doesn't mean it is right or correct. This is
not a "phantom" issue. In my scenario of this preset saving actually saving, you have a lot better workflow than with the parameters
resetting.
 
There is no reason for the FX chain not to save as a preset when you save it as a preset. End of story. If you can't understand that
I can't help you.
2013/11/24 12:16:35
scook
It really took a needlessly nasty turn. I originally commented because it seems more by design than by error. Pursuing the issue to the point of flinging insults makes no sense to me. As I posted earlier, if you see it as a bug write it up.
2013/11/24 12:17:54
Taurean Mixing
scook
It really took a needlessly nasty turn. I originally commented because it seems more by design than by error. Pursuing the issue to the point of flinging insults makes no sense to me. As I posted earlier, if you see it as a bug write it up.




Scook, you and some other posters can not make passive aggressive suggestions with your insults built into them and then accuse me of being insulting. You can't understand that you are being condescending when you essentially say I only think it's a bug?
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