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2013/09/28 21:27:58
TomHelvey
I just installed X3 and it found my Waldorf Lector plugin as a VST 3. Unfortunately the plugin can no longer find its presets. Loading presets manually using the load program option doesn't work and if attempted twice, crashes Sonar. Is there a way to tell Sonar to only use the vst 2 version?
2013/09/28 21:44:42
Fog
the installer has a custom mode ? either that or just move it to a temp vst folder that isn't scanned.
 
I have largo , but not used it for a while
2013/09/28 21:50:35
TomHelvey
Just found the setting. :)
In Preferences -> VST there are checkboxes for VST 3 Migration.
I turned both the hide and replace options off, loaded the VST 2 version of the plugin instead of the VST 3 version and it seems to be working again.
2013/09/28 22:23:18
swamptooth
TomHelvey
I just installed X3 and it found my Waldorf Lector plugin as a VST 3. Unfortunately the plugin can no longer find its presets. Loading presets manually using the load program option doesn't work and if attempted twice, crashes Sonar. Is there a way to tell Sonar to only use the vst 2 version?




in lector click the "v" icon next to "file" in the preset display at the top of lector.  navigate to c:\program data\waldorf\lector\factories and all of the presets should show up and load correctly.  
2013/09/29 03:30:18
TomHelvey
swamptooth
 
in lector click the "v" icon next to "file" in the preset display at the top of lector.  navigate to c:\program data\waldorf\lector\factories and all of the presets should show up and load correctly.  




I tried that. The Lector VST 3 plugin appears to be broken (at least in Sonar), the VST 2 version still works fine. I'm not overly concerned as long as I have a workaround.
2013/09/29 21:29:04
swamptooth
hm.  vst3 version working fine here... except i can't set it as a synth to send midi to it.  it's working oddly in cubase 7 as well.  i'll play with it a bit more...
2013/09/29 22:28:39
swamptooth
try the 1.0.3 version - the updater took care of numerous issues.  http://www.waldorf-music.info/en/lectordownloads/889-windows.html
 
2014/03/15 08:46:02
KWILD
Just bought the Lector from Waldorf and I got the same problem!
No presets list using the VST3 version with Sonar X3D.I can load presets only using the "load presets" option from Sonar GUI if i try to "load program" clicking on "file" (near the little "v") and selecting one of the .fxp i got a Sonar crash (SONARPDR.EXE has stopped working).
There's a way to fix that?
 
Thanx.
 
 
2014/03/16 23:31:26
TomHelvey
I gave up on Lector, I corresponded (very slowly) with their technical support person over a couple weeks and they didn't seem very interested in resolving the issues. They claimed Sonar was at fault and that their code was perfect. The CreateInstance method in their dll's was crashing Sonar and the VST scanner blows up with their plugins in a VST directory.
 
I've tried both Lector and VocalizerPro, neither of them were satisfactory for basic vocoder sounds like Daft Punk or Zedd. Lector is highly unstable and even when it did work, it was a one sound wonder, the synth is pretty limited. The VocalizerPro was even worse as a vocoder, the built in synth uses spectral synthesis which is even more baffling than FM to understand and there are very few, if any resources available to learn how to use it. At least VocalizerPro doesn't crash Sonar, I might find another use for it one of these days.
 
The very best vocoder plugin out there is the TAL_Vocoder: http://kunz.corrupt.ch/products/tal-vocoder and it's free. You can use anything for a carrier: Z3TA, Sylenth, bounced audio, etc so you're not limited by a built in synth. It's really simple to use, just RTFM and you'll be getting lucky in a few minutes. It might be nice to be able to define the number and widths of the vocoder bands, but that's not really a serious limitation, the TAL has enough to get the job done nicely.
 
If a vendor made something like an enhanced TAL with a few more vocoder features, I'd probably buy it.
Cheers
 
KWILD
Just bought the Lector from Waldorf and I got the same problem!
No presets list using the VST3 version with Sonar X3D.I can load presets only using the "load presets" option from Sonar GUI if i try to "load program" clicking on "file" (near the little "v") and selecting one of the .fxp i got a Sonar crash (SONARPDR.EXE has stopped working).
There's a way to fix that?
 
Thanx.
 
 




2014/03/16 23:42:41
scook
May want to checkout MVocoder. As with all MeldaProduction plug-ins, there is a fully functional 15 trial. There is a three part series about the plug-in on Youtube made by the vendor.
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