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2014/02/07 10:31:42
joel77
CakeAlexS
Fair enough, most people who originally bought the album are deaf by now.




Excuse me??!!??  ........ What'd he say??
 
Actually Alex, not ALL of us. We may be on the verge of senility, but we hear just fine ..... for old folks!!   lol 
2014/02/07 10:44:34
brconflict
I was just listening to this album again recently. I have the original 1985 master on Cassette, but I was listening to the first run CD master, which came a few years later, I believe. If you don't hear this album in it's original form, "Why Worry" and "The Man's Too Strong" will not be as real as they were recorded.
 
This was one of the cleanest recorded albums I've ever heard.
2014/02/07 11:23:14
bitflipper
This particular album (the 1995 remaster) has been one of my standard references for many years. I just checked on Amazon, and you can pick up the original (1985) release there for $1.79 plus shipping. The 2000 version is $24 and the 2005 SACD edition is $40. Read into that what you will.
2014/02/07 11:33:45
mettelus
Ugh... society has been effectively trained! Or possibly the self-fulfilling prophecy of loud music makes people deaf so they can only listen to loud music?
 
I guess I am of the simple mindset that "Even if you make crap loud, you still only have loud crap."
 
I never got that album on CD. I only have the cassette myself, and I like it "as is."
2014/02/07 12:03:22
Johannes H
I have the 1985 version of Brothers In Arms on CD.
I think in general it sounds good, but I have never liked the drum sound on that album.
2014/02/07 20:04:34
Splat
Johannes H
I have the 1985 version of Brothers In Arms on CD.
I think in general it sounds good, but I have never liked the drum sound on that album.



As their drummer got replaced by a session musician for that album, I suspect he thanks you for your comment.
He had the last laugh though, the one drum track that was left on the album, which was played by him, was the drum intro to Money for Nothing.
 
I don't think he got a Rolls Royce like Knopfler got out of it (plate was DIRE STRAIGHTS I vaguely remember), I also remember John Ilsley having a particular taste for Whisky (JD?) in the mornings at Air Studios (Oxford Street London not Montserrat, both having wonderful custom Neve consoles).
2014/02/07 21:12:52
konradh
Feb Sound on Sound declares that the loudness wars are over—or at least we have landed at Normandy.  Interesting article.  I am sure you mastering engineers will already know everything in the article, but it was enlightening for us lowly writers and musicians who also record.
2014/02/08 01:41:12
mudgel
Wasn't it Bob Katz that SOS were quoting, who said that the loudness wars are over.
2014/02/08 06:12:19
Splat
I think they declaired the music biz over...
2014/03/13 07:15:16
mettelus
Here is an interesting post that gives some neat insight on iTunes, and how loudness can actually harm the played version of a song (specifically the "Sound Check" feature). http://productionadvice.co.uk/u2-21st-century-loudness-secret/
 
 
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