• SONAR
  • audio dropouts and static (p.2)
2014/03/13 11:30:12
robert_e_bone
OK - for recording, that is too high.
 
That amount of latency will cause dropouts.
 
Try temporarily turning off the Wi-Fi adapter, if it has a switch, or disabling it in Windows, just prior to starting Sonar, and turn it back on when you finish in Sonar.
 
Bob Bone
 
2014/03/13 11:54:09
CJaysMusic
Yea, your WIFI in your PC can cause Static burst.
2014/03/13 12:21:43
Westside Steve
thanks guys. I'll disable that wifi adapter when recordng. If the latency is too high, bone, how do i turn it down?
would I set that number 6 over to 4 or 3?
WSS
2014/03/13 12:47:29
thomasabarnes
We're still working somewhat in the dark, here. I don't see where the OP has lists important information:
 
1) What operating system he is running or what audio interface he is running (two very important system specs.)
 
2) The number of VST or softsynth he has loaded in the project. This info is needed to give us an idea of what kind of work load the OP is running in the SONAR project that exhibits the drop outs and static.  Playback and Record I/O buffer size. Or is it just this project or all projects that exhibit the drop outs and static? With a CPU as fast as 3.7 GHz, the ASIO latency can be set at 64 or 128 samples for playback and recording.
 
To Op: in the Unified Preferences View select Advanced at the bottom of this dialog. Under Audio>Sync and Caching look under File System on the right?  What is the Playback and Record I/O buffer sizes set at?
 
The wireless network adapter certainly should be disabled when running SONAR. Disable it, and run the project. Is the problem still there after you disable the wireless network adapter?
 
I don't have Windows 8 or 8.1, but it still may be a matter as little as disabling core-parking, if he is running Windows 7. 
2014/03/13 12:49:34
robert_e_bone
What I recommend is to indeed disable that adapter prior to running Sonar, then going into the ASIO Control Panel for your audio interface, and changing the ASIO Buffer Size there.
 
Some interface UI screen's are accessed through Preferences>Audio>Driver Settings, by hitting the ASIO Control Panel button, but some vendors do not respond to that, and instead they usually have a program running and minimized down to the Windows System Tray, which is down in the right-bottom corner of your Desktop (you may have to hit the little arrow to expand your hidden icons).
 
I have only ever seen those 2 ways of getting to the audio interface's UI screen, so one of those should work.
 
As far as what to set it to, some of the UI screens use ASIO Buffer Size, and some have 'Number of Samples', and some have a slider and a number.  They all control the buffer size, it's just different mechanisms for doing so.
 
If you see ASIO Buffer Size, set it to 128.  If you see Number of Samples, shoot for around 220-230 samples, or whatever is around or under 250 samples.  If it is a slider, try moving it down a bit, it if is now on 6 move it to 4 or 5 (you can always make this change and go see what it does to your ASIO-reported Input Samples and Output Samples in Sonar's Preferences>Audio>Driver Settings, in the reported latency section, and go back and further adjust the slider one way or the other - until you get it set to around 220-230 or so).
 
What you want to end up, as a reasonable balance, is to have an ASIO-reported Total Roundtrip Latency of around 9-10 milliseconds, which will give you good sound quality without really hearing any dropouts. 
 
The above is my recommendation for when you are RECORDING.  You will have to make your buffer bigger - possibly up to around a buffer size of 1024, instead of 128, when you are doing mixing/mastering, but for recording use the above settings and with your Wi-Fi also disabled you should be OK.
 
SOOOO, give the above a shot and please post back on the results, or ask more questions if you need me to take another stab at explaining any of what I posted.
 
Bob Bone
 
2014/03/13 12:53:23
robert_e_bone
@thomasabarnes - you are quite correct, the OP has not listed much in the way of system specs.  I had asked the OP to list his specs in his profile signature, but so far he has not done so.
 
Hopefully, he will supply that information, so that we can better assist him with issues.
 
Bob Bone
 
2014/03/13 12:56:58
thomasabarnes
Westside Steve
If the latency is too high, bone, how do i turn it down?
would I set that number 6 over to 4 or 3?
WSS



Oh, I didn't realize you're kind of new to this computer stuff.
 
In the Unified Preference View (open this view by going to Edit and selecting Preferences in the top left side of SONAR,) click on Audio on the left side of the window that pops up, click on Driver Settings and then click the ASIO button on the right. A window for audio interface should pop up, change the Samples Per Buffer in that window.
2014/03/13 13:02:40
thomasabarnes
Hi Robert:
 
With CJay, you, and me helping him, he will most likely be OK.
2014/03/13 13:05:04
robert_e_bone
As long as he's not creating new Disco music - I'm OUT if he is :)
 
Bob Bone
2014/03/13 13:44:31
Westside Steve
Heh. in the late seventy's we got canned from a gig without pay because I launchetched into our omnipresent disco sucks routine. In those days, when there was actually a Musicians Union, we went before a board comprised of 5 old Italian guys who played music for a living since they got off the boat. They ask the club or what I said that was so offensive? He replied disco sucks! The old guy laughed out loud and said pay the boys!

but I've been using cakewalk since version 3 on floppy desk. I've just not had this problem before and quite honestly don't know very much about the computer end of things. Sorry and thanks for the help guys. And I have known of CJ for many years! Thanks again.
WSS
© 2026 APG vNext Commercial Version 5.1

Use My Existing Forum Account

Use My Social Media Account