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2012/10/22 12:26:38
The Maillard Reaction


I'll bet he knows a few guys that have bags full of inline iso transformers and ground lifts.



2012/10/22 15:10:15
ChuckC
Well my studio is only about 11' x 15' and it seems like the snakes are a minimum of 50' long. If the beast exists a 12 channel one at about 25' would be perfect for me.    Well I'll see what I can find... more digging to do.
2012/10/22 17:33:30
The Maillard Reaction


Check out the Belden 46xxx and the 78xxA series here:

http://www.beldencables-emea.com/en/products/pro-broadcast-products/audio_cables/audio/audio-analog/index.phtml


That stuff is benchmark standard for multi conductor snake specifications... there's some better and a lot more that's worse.

It's real common to have a snake custom assembled to suit any need. 

The pricing of the custom builds can seem reasonable when/if you have an opportunity to compare quality at like levels. Custom builds are routine for companies that make good snakes.


Good luck shopping.

best regards,
mike



2012/10/22 17:50:25
Beagle
mike_mccue


Not all ground loops introduce audible hum.

That is why audio cables are commonly supplied with shields that are connected at both ends.


I don't think I said that all cables with grounds connected at both ends would cause hum.  just for clarification.
2012/10/24 14:58:30
Cactus Music

Here's a good shorty

http://tech.pronto.com/mpm/compare/mogami-gold-8-channel-xlr-11518104371


Of course to do this you need to have a new building of have torn your walls apart. 
I bought a 1000' coil box of Beldon foil shielded cable,We ran 12 channels from the control room to the back wall where the drums normally are. And then some 2 channel to the two iso booth rooms.  I bought a bunch of 2 gang and 4 gang wall plates, Most were XLR some were TRS locking type 1/4" all mounted on stainless steal wall plates. I got it all from a Company called Cable Teck which is now the Radial folks.  It might have cost $300.   I have also used  snake returns for headphones. Don't think it's a  good idea over 50'. 
Some Companies offer custom build snakes and have catalogs with 100's of models. There are many professional suppliers of multi channel cable. 
A local band bought a inexpensive snake from Musicains Friend and it has issues. Get one from a audio pro supplier. Sound companies don't order snakes from Guitar centre for a reason.  

2012/10/24 15:06:43
Cactus Music
Just a note: 
Mike cables use a heavy outer rubber coating because they get stomped on. The Beldon install cable is about the size of a telephone cable but actually can out perform a lot of standard mike cables. Foil is good stuff I guess. So If you can get your hands on a roll of this stuff, you can easily make your own custom snakes, Just keep it off the floor or protect it with a outer coating, that's all a snake is.  
Per lin. foot it's very inexpensive. 
2012/10/24 20:33:37
Rbh
We used to call that a floating shield. The intent was that rf and field noise that was picked up along the cable runs would effectively dump into one device but would not daisy chain the cable noise to the next unit. So we would have the shield connected on all output connectors for instance and have them open on all input connectors. I only did this with guitar stomp boxes and processors myself and it did seem to do some good if I recall.
2012/10/24 21:47:28
digi2ns
I have a 100' Reel 16x4 thats nice and great connectors.  Love their craftsmanship

Heres some info on their short snakes

http://www.ewisound.com/pro/pro_11.html

2012/10/24 21:54:01
digi2ns
Also have strain reliefs to keep the weight of the heavy cable from pulling on connections
2012/10/24 22:40:04
ChuckC
Looks like good stuff Mike but I can't find their price lists?
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