2014/03/08 19:00:19
caminitic
As part of my normal "getting my mixes to sound......err......less crappy", I find myself notching quite a bit of nasty frequencies out of vocals, acoustics, etc.  I usually use a "normal" EQ for this...high Q...sometimes up to 20 notches.  I was reading a little bit for the necessity of a Linear Phase EQ for this kind of surgical work, but am not sure about the sonic -- and CPU intensive -- differences.
 
Anybody know when/when not to use Linear EQs?  I use this notch technique in both stereo and mid-side tweaking as the mix unfolds.  It's amazing what a difference it makes when you A/B it.  Thanks gang!
2014/03/08 19:40:03
scook
2014/03/08 20:46:26
Guitarpima
If your having to notch out to much of a linear phase EQ then you have not done proper EQ for your tracks. My advice is go to Groove 3 and watch the videos on EQ. You should only have to make minor adjustments, in any, on a  LPEQ.
2014/03/08 22:48:44
caminitic
scook
This video may be of interest http://www.fabfilter.com/...phase-vs-minimum-phase


Wow....that was.....ummmm.......over my head.... =)  Thanks!!! hee hee


2014/03/08 22:50:11
caminitic
Guitarpima
If your having to notch out to much of a linear phase EQ then you have not done proper EQ for your tracks. My advice is go to Groove 3 and watch the videos on EQ. You should only have to make minor adjustments, in any, on a  LPEQ.


Thanks dude...I'll check out the Groove 3 vid...I was actually talking about individual track notching, not final mix...but still don't know when it's beneficial to use linear vs. regular EQ.
2014/03/08 23:19:30
Guitarpima
You can't use a LFEQ on individual tracks. Maybe if it's a UAD plug but for every case, no. The LPEQ is very CPU intensive and it won't sync properly. It's mainly used for mastering and you can put it on your master bus. A good parametric EQ will be sufficient for notching. If you check out the videos, you'll see how to do it.
2014/03/09 00:45:35
bitflipper
Linear-phase EQ isn't the solution you're looking for. If you're doing a lot of notching on vocals, the problem is resonances in your room. Get some acoustical absorption around you when you track your vocals, even if it means dragging the mic into a closet and surrounding yourself with winter coats. Get away from walls and windows. Even with a cheap microphone you should not have to do extensive EQ on vocals, certainly not "lots" of notches.
 
 
2014/03/09 01:24:50
caminitic
How did you know what my tracking/mixing/10x11' room looked like??? ;)

"Sure honey...French doors would look great in the front office..." Lol
2014/03/09 12:06:10
Sanderxpander
I always understood phasing issues to be more associated with boosting than cutting. I've certainly never considered linear phase EQs on tracks needing some notching.
2014/03/09 13:58:52
gswitz
caminitic
scook
This video may be of interest http://www.fabfilter.com/...phase-vs-minimum-phase


Wow....that was.....ummmm.......over my head.... =)  Thanks!!! hee hee

+1
 
I watched but I get confused. What does it mean it bends phase before and after the notch?does that mean it moves the sound in those frequencies forward and backward in time? That's what I think of as phase issues... moving the wave peaks and valleys.
 
Scook? Anyone?
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