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2017/04/30 19:17:20
Bill Gabbert
The way I understand it....
AMD Only manufactures the Ryzen 1800x .
Then with a lazer, disables features and cores that result in the 1700s, 1600s, 1500s,1400s.
I guess Intel does the same thing....Marketing.
2017/04/30 19:32:04
interpolated
Silent cases only really work with quiet components. My case is Antec P100 which is a budget case with silencing in mind. Not quite though.
 
You do get a slight low undertone when drives are operating faster. Both drives are HDD and currently only one SSD at the moment. In my intended upgrade I want to use a NVME SSD drive for a boot/program, keep one HDD for archival and backup. Another SSD for writing to as I don't record external instruments although I'll just get what is ideal on the day.
 
2017/04/30 20:19:35
Bill Gabbert
Maybe it's just my bad luck , But at least 4 SATA's have failed me. You don't need a silent case or even case fans... If you don't have any noise or heat. 3 SSD's raided 0 for speed would be ideal.
 
{The first manufacturer to use  "USB3.1 v2" in their Audio interface will make inexpensive AMD's a great option!}
2017/04/30 20:24:25
Jim Roseberry
**** The forum software is absolutely terrible if you edit a post. ****
2017/04/30 20:26:09
Jim Roseberry
Bill Gabbert
Maybe it's only my bad luck, But I have gone through at least 4 SATA's ; You don't need a silent case or even any fans if your system doesn't make any heat or any noise. 3 SSD's raided 0 for speed would be ideal.



Nit picking, but it you're going to configure any striped RAID, you want an even number of drives.  
 
2017/04/30 20:26:54
Jim Roseberry
Your drive configuration should be based on your needs:
If you're pulling 128-256 notes of disk-streaming polyphony (from Kontakt, etc), there's no sense talking RAID array.
A single SATA SSD will suffice.
2017/04/30 20:28:24
Jim Roseberry
If you're running something like EWSO (which only allows a single drive location for its accompanying library), two SATA SSDs in RAID-0 will net about 1000MB/Sec.  Plenty of polyphony... at reasonable cost.
 
If you're a hardcore composer running multiple multi-mic libraries, the polyphony can pile up fast.
We have clients scoring video games (doing huge orchestral mock-ups) who want to pull 4000+ stereo voices of disk-streaming polyphony.  These folks typically leverage m.2 Ultra, PCIe x4, and multiple SATA SSDs.
 
There's still a time/place for conventional HDs.
If you're recording audio at 44.1k/48k, unless you're working on projects with more than 100 contiguous audio tracks, you don't need SSD.
Today's HDs don't put off nearly the noise or heat of their predecessors.  
Nothing at all like the old Seagate Cheetahs!
 
If you're working at 188k/192k, I'd go with SSD for Audio.
 
 
 
2017/04/30 21:53:29
Bill Gabbert
Yes, Oddly I think it was - 3 scsi Cheetahs raided that was my first fail!
 
 So if one needs 4 drives to raid-0...There is the consideration that 4 drives raided = 4x the probability of failure.
 
{The price has dropped to $200 for a New Ryzen 5 1600 6core.- eBay , 5/1/17}
 
 
2017/05/01 20:54:30
vladasyn
Actually I have HUGE problem with Kaby Lake and Z270 Asus Hero motherboard. My Presonu Studio Live 1st generation would not run with Fire Wire card. Presonus says- I am the only one with this problem. It is still possible that it is unsigned drivers issue, but the foftware part is working, but hardware can not transmit. Presonus says- may be something wrong with the line distribution and Z270 not able to handle 24 tracks of Audio. They say- with Apple, they some time would get only 8 channels work but with PCs, if it does not have enough throughput, nothing goes trough. Have to throw away 24 channels Presonus mixer over this and buy something else. And nobody knows. Reported this to Asus- no answer. 
2017/05/01 21:06:27
Jim Roseberry
I've stress-tested Kabylake with more than 24 channels of audio...
It performed well with Z270 chipset motherboard (see above).
 
Have you tried a different Firewire controller?
SIIG makes a great TI chipset controller.
Syba also makes a nice (inexpensive) TI chipset controller.
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