2014/02/18 11:12:38
jwh
Hi,
I've heard people say, use a reference track, am I just listening to it, or am I looking for something in the pro channel EQ
or what ? Need a hand here please.
 
 
Thanks
John
2014/02/18 11:41:45
Boydie
It is all about the ears!
 
It is important to select a reference track that suits the vibe and feel you are going for in your track (usually from the same genre)
 
You then need to ensure that you do a bit of "volume matching" as if you reference against a commercial track it will be mastered and probably much louder than your track
 
You can then toggle between your track and the reference track to get the bits you want to sound the same or similar
 
I also find them useful for judging levels - especially bass
 
Good luck
2014/02/18 12:37:36
garyhb
Hi John,
 
A reference track is a (normally) commercially produced and mastered song or musical piece (or even sample) that sounds the way you want your production to sound. Reference tracks can contain anything from the sound of a well-mixed kick and bass through to effects, drum sounds, vocals ... anything you want including mastered tracks.  There are a number of well-respected tracks mentioned on the web, books, magazines etc. that might be cited by experts, but you should create a reference library of your own to suit your musical tastes or client requirements. 
 
The process is just to place a sample of the reference in a separate track aligned where you want your processing to take place and A/B by using mute or solo. Of course, you should also try to find e.g. interviews with engineers or producers who can describe the process too.
 
You are listening for any element of the reference you want to apply to your own track, such as eq, compression, fx, or balance with other parts. The art to this is learning to listen both in a focused way to these single elements and also to combinations and right up to the whole mix. Also take into account the original performance, players gear, mics, room etc. and note that commercial music is already mastered so try to take this into account too when mixing...!
 
Build a reference library and store it as samples you can drag and drop into tracks - don't be surprised at how many you end up with!
 
Hope that helps. Happy mixing!
 
G
2014/02/18 12:46:36
CJaysMusic
A reference track is simply a professionally released song that is in the same genre as yours and has the same vibe and sound as yours.
 
You can use this reference track to help you record and mix your song as your sound starts in the recording stage, not the mixing stage. 
 
CJ
2014/02/18 12:48:32
dlion16
you'll want to route your ref track to your mains, not your master...
2014/02/19 10:08:43
Bristol_Jonesey
dlion16
you'll want to route your ref track to your mains, not your master...


And drop it in level by at least 6dB, or at least until the volumes of each are more or less matched
2014/02/19 13:32:36
Jeff Evans
You can use this reference track to help you record and mix your song as your sound starts in the recording stage, not the mixing stage......
 
I dont agree.  Reference tracks are good at every stage including and especially mastering.  If anything it is probably less helpful at the recording stage but there is always something you will gain from it which might help you even right at the start with tracking.
 
It is interesting how few actually do it.  I find it is also better to route the source of the ref track into a completely separate input in your system (if you have it that is, it is better to avoid your DAW in every way) and it is very important to adjust its level to match that of what ever it is you are doing.
 
They are also great for setting up PA's in a live situation too.
2014/02/19 22:42:13
lawajava
jerrypettit
http://www.samplemagic.com/details/184/magic-ab
 
Agreed. It's great for just what the OP is asking about.  Use it on every song.




2014/02/19 23:05:52
Vastman
Gosh, I learn something every time I take a moment to play on this forum... been draging my mixed mp3/waves to a sonar "waves" song to check um for decent rendering but dragging a great song into one of my struggling attempts to be great to quick compare in my listening environment...
 
just Brilliant! 
 
me so dumb but gettin' smarter every day... Thanks, all!
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