ORIGINAL: Roflcopter

What is "ti"?

It spelled backwards?

Gotcha. I find myself doing that more and more as I get older. So he means he runs several instances of EWQLSO for the different instruments.

Okay, so as I understand it, BJ's strategy involves whatever plays the EWQLSO samples (I think they have their own proprietary sample player now) is multitimbral. This is unlike a sample-playback unit such as DimPro. But you'd still need a separate track for each MIDI channel, and thus for each articulation unless I'm missing something. This is theoretically the advantage of the Cubase 5 system - one track for multiple articulations. No?

ORIGINAL: marce

. . .so, Is there any way to label the channels name? Or to labels the piano keys with the keyswitches name, similar to the percussion maps?

Yes. Create an "Instrument Definition" for the softsynth/sampler app/instrument patch you want to use. I did one several months ago just to see how "easy" it was or wasn't. It's faily simple to do but seemed time-consuming for my use. I use EWQL so much I basically have the key-switchings memorized. I suppose if one were to create a lot of instrument defs on a regular basis it wouldn't seem so time-consuming but I really don't need them often enough to do so.

Okay, let's say a person was to settle on EWQLSO with the play engine. I notice many articulations available. That's great. So assuming that library, is Cubase 5 even able to use its articulation feature on that library? If so, again, what would be the downside of using Sonar instead?

Here's an alternative - pricey, but I hear good things about their products.

http://www.projectsam.com/Products/Symphobia/

I don't understand why anyone would use a different track for different articulations, if they are using a instrument with key switches. I thought it was worked out long ago that when you change keyswitches you just extend the last switch out across the grid until the next change so that you could remember which switch was active.

On the other hand, if you are using multiple instruments with different articulations (in multiple slots), I can't imagine having those on the same track and I thought everyone put those on different tracks for clarity and precise level control. I have both EW gold (Konpakt) and I have used it as I described for years. I recently bought the Platinum Plus Play version and I have used it the same way.

Danny



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That's a good point. Separate tracks allow you to control levels better. I guess with Sonar you could keep things organized with track folders as well.

I just watched the Cubase video again. I don't think this VST articulation thing is that huge of a workflow improvement. You still need to choose the articulations and enter them either on the score page or in the MIDI edit window. In other words, you still need to tell the computer that you want a specific articulation. So I guess it comes down to where you do that - either on separate tracks, or on one track using this new feature.

Bottom line: I don't think major midi-mock-up people are going to drop their current DAW format and switch to Cubase just because of this feature. Nevertheless, I hope the Sonar development team will have taken a look and consider adding it to Sonar.

ORIGINAL: Nick P

I just watched the Cubase video again. I don't think this VST articulation thing is that huge of a workflow improvement. You still need to choose the articulations and enter them either on the score page or in the MIDI edit window. In other words, you still need to tell the computer that you want a specific articulation. So I guess it comes down to where you do that - either on separate tracks, or on one track using this new feature.

How the program will know what articulation you want if you dont say it? Reading mind... next feature for Sonar! Just joking.
Well, i believe it`s a big improvement for the Staff view. You just add a pizzicato, tremolo, etc mark, and you get the right keyswitch. You cant do that in the current SV. And is a big improvement when you switch from one library to another. Since keyswitches are not standarized, they can be diffrent in each library, if you switch from one library to other, you need to re-write the keyswitching. With this feature, you just need to load the mapping, and voila.

ORIGINAL: marce

How the program will know what articulation you want if you dont say it? Reading mind... next feature for Sonar! Just joking.
Well, i believe it`s a big improvement for the Staff view. You just add a pizzicato, tremolo, etc mark, and you get the right keyswitch. You cant do that in the current SV. And is a big improvement when you switch from one library to another. Since keyswitches are not standarized, they can be diffrent in each library, if you switch from one library to other, you need to re-write the keyswitching. With this feature, you just need to load the mapping, and voila.

Hmmm....

This feature add to Sonar will be a very important upgrade I think, To work with big orchestral libraries is very important know what keyswitch changes the articulation. The system used by Cubase is fantastic because is very complicated to remember all keyswitchs, you only need to create maps for each library.