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  • There ought to be a law against tempting a gear addict.
2012/10/13 10:07:56
Dave Modisette
2012/10/13 13:16:05
Genghis
D'oh... Was thinking about one of the new Octo cards when they are available, but this really looks like a deal.  I thought those preamps were going for a lot more than that. 

Now you've got me researching to figure out if it will connect digitally to my RME FireFace 400.  Got a little more reading to do, but it looks like I could hook it up with an ADAT connector.  Dammit UAD... (and Dave for pointing out this one.)
2012/10/13 15:52:51
bitflipper
An addict will always find a way to his fix. Can't blame the pusher.

Did you notice this glowing five-star endorsement by a satisfied user...

I cannot express just how quickly this became detrimental to my entire studio workflow.


(I think he meant to say "central" to his workflow.)
2012/10/14 02:11:38
ChuckC
Haha Bit, that is funny as hell.
2012/10/14 08:56:02
Guitarhacker
Well.... state laws very on returning something to the store for a refund..... but most of the big box stores have a 30 day no questions asked policy for returns....


It reminds me of the Micky Gillie song.... "The girls all get prettier at closing time"..... so you get it and take it home thinking to yourself that it's a number 9 or even a 10...and you just scored big time.... but then after a few days at the house you realize it's maybe a 2 or a 3 at best......  take it back and get something else...... that's the only "cure" if you wanna look at it that way and call it that way..... 

Have fun....
2012/10/14 22:36:14
Middleman
Well, I got to play with those preamps recently. Was not impressed. So temper your enthusiasm with a healthy dose of skepticism.
2012/10/15 14:44:10
Houndawg
Middleman, could you elaborate on your experience with the preamps?
2012/10/15 15:30:16
Middleman
Sure thing. I grabbed the local rep at GC one evening about a month ago. We used a Groovetubes GT69 and a Neuman U87 and tested an Avalon 737, UA610, LA610 and the 4-710d on vocals. I wanted to see the difference in all of them because I was thinking about the UA 610 for some tube color to my preamp base.

I was not impressed with the 610 on either mic. It was for lack of a better term "woolly" sounding. Just very rounded by also very grainy sounding. Next we tried the LA610 which was very similar. I have an LA2A so the LA side of the LA610 was not of interest. The 710d was extremely neutral sounding almost to the point of being flat. The tube control took it into the zone of the 610 that I had already decided was not something I could use. I was not impressed by either of the UA preamps for vocal. They might have won the day on instruments but not for vocals. We also tried the Avalon, which was warm but big sounding, clear, and the vocals were much more enhanced with both mics although the U87 was more polished sounding. The advent of the tube in the GT69 along with the tubes in all 3 models always seemed a bit too "tube" sounding. This mic sounds better with a transformer-based preamp. I have a Neve Portico 5012 which works much better with this mic.

I thought the 710 was akin to maybe Mackie mixer preamps on the normal side and even though it brought the tube on the other side, it was not impressive at that cost. I would rather take that amount of money and get a Martech or Avalon preamp.


2012/10/15 15:44:27
jcschild
WOW  got to say you are the first to ever comment that on a UA product..
comparing to mackie (which are very decent for being on a mixer) but still... OUCH..
i have yet to have anyone want to return a UAudio mic pre..

alas  mic pres, converters mics guit-fiddles are all in the subjective area.
2012/10/15 16:16:15
Middleman
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