2014/02/15 10:02:33
robert_e_bone
1.  No need to lose sleep over any of this - I certainly do not want you to.  And, I didn't mean to scare you or anything like that.  All I did was list the steps to cleanly remove an installed version of Sonar.  I have done this myself many times, over the years, and lots of other folks have too.  Nothing to be scared of - the steps are just like a recipe to follow - like you were making cookies.
2.  Free will gives us all the freedom to do as we choose.  You are only accountable to yourself - I am not disappointed in you - no reason to be.  I am not sure why you would think I might be.
3.  You could safely remove any particular installed Sonar version, and install it again, without need for doing anything with reloading the entire operating system.  If you choose to reload your entire computer, that is certainly your choice, but not required, as far as for anything I had written in earlier posts.
4.  IF you do choose to reload your entire computer, Sonar 8.5.3 will install just fine, with whatever version of whatever plugins it has, and even if some are no longer present in X2 or X3, those plugins will still be there because you installed them with 8.5.3 - I hope that makes sense.  For example, they replaced V-Vocal with Melodyne in X3.  My V-Vocal is still on my system, from an earlier release of Sonar, so it does not get deleted when I install X3.  It's just that X3 ships with Melodyne, so BOTH V-Vocal and Melodyne live side by side on my computer.  I hope that better explains it.
 
 
This is just a suggestion - why not take a good backup, and hold off on reloading your entire operating system for the moment, and just go through the steps to remove the current X2 you have installed now, following the steps I listed earlier?
 
Then, install X2 again, with Run As Administrator, and see if that fixes your Sonar issues.
 
You could then decide to either leave the operating system alone, or then choose to move to a solid-state primary drive as a separate issue, separate from Sonar.
 
Just a suggestion, 
 
Bob Bone
 
2014/02/15 10:36:00
Studio midisound
That is a very good suggestion...I think I wil do that..altough I never done that before but I think I can do this with the help you given me
Thanks
Gr. Frits
2014/02/15 10:50:25
robert_e_bone
I will be online and available for the next couple of hours, and while I will be working on taxes, I will keep checking back to see if you have any posted problems or questions.
 
Bob Bone
 
 
 
2014/02/15 11:02:37
CJaysMusic
The sound cart is RME. Bit range I used is 32 bit and the sample rate is 44.1. That should not be the problem my normal latency is 5.8 msec

With every Crash, you get a detailed report, so please post that report.
 
There is no sound card that can be set at 32bit, as 32bit is not a fixed point. Its a floating point. 32bit can only be processed inside Sonar.
 
The RME is an excellent sound card by the way!!
CJ
2014/02/15 14:26:00
Studio midisound
I don,t think I can do this this weekend...first I have to make back ups. So I trie this in the next couple of days.
2014/02/15 15:30:29
Cactus Music
If you were thinking of a new C drive then that saves worrying about deleting something. Myself I think it's a good way to go. A nice fresh start. 
Pull your old C drive and put it to the side. 
 
A newer faster drive will perk things up. 
 
Sonar is unique in that each version is independent of the others. I have Sonar 7 32 bit, 8.5- 64 & 32 bit X1LE and now X3 all installed. 
Because I only install software on C drive it's no big deal for me to re do my C drive. It only takes me a few hours to re install everything I need. I know some disagree and claim that this takes them days?? I don't understand why, guess they have very elaborate set ups, But I only use mine for music so It's OS = 2 hours including windows updates, Install Audio drivers 4 min. Sonar = 15 Minutes, Wave Lab 10 minutes. Move my plug ins back 3 min. done. ALl my projects are stored in the data drives so open instantly. 
 
2014/02/26 03:43:15
Studio midisound
Just a couple of days ago I followed your instructions for deindtall and reinstall of X3.After trying out a couple of days it makes me verry happy to say that the program is running ok now and didn,t have any problems with the TTS1 anymore.To anyone who helped me ..thank you verry much
Greetings from Holland, Frits
2014/02/26 10:08:38
robert_e_bone
That is FANTASTIC news!
 
This issue with Run As Administrator comes up SO often. I would hope the Bakers consider adding some sort of programmatic check in the installer program, or at least have it display a warning message about it.
 
SOOO many people run into problems with this, and get all frustrated, and it may cause some people to think Sonar is not stable - maybe some lost sales opportunities.
 
I just checked the X3 Download Installation instructions, and did not see anything in there about Run As Administrator, but I firmly believe that it installs better with Run As Administrator option set, AND I think it RUNS better with the launch icon for Sonar's properties changed to Run As Administrator too.  (Right-click on the X3 launch icon, click on Properties, then click on Advanced, then check Run As Administrator, then click OK, then click Apply, then confirm the change if asked).
 
Am I out in left field on this?  Haven't other folks had problems when they have not installed and/or launched the program with Run As Administrator?
 
Bob Bone
 
2014/02/26 14:34:22
stevec
Funny...  while I completely understand all the reasons why the Run As Admin option is needed - something I've recommended many times with the software I support at work  - I've never actually had to use it myself with SONAR!   I'm not sure why since I'm on a stock install of Win7 x64, but everything just seems to work.
 
Now with that said, I am looking forward to my first instance of needing Run As Admin in 5, 4, 3, 2...   
 
 
2014/02/26 14:43:35
Cactus Music
When I installed X3 studio I actually never saw that option as it jumped right to Sonars splash screen. All works perfectly for me. I do normally select "run As Admin" when installing software.
 
Glad the re do worked for you.  
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