bitflipper


Does the Quad Capture not support zero-latency monitoring? If you're monitoring through the computer, then yeh, you're going to have latency issues. I'm not a drummer, but I know that playing piano that way is nearly impossible and I imagine drums are 10x worse. But I have zero issues with latency - even on an old machine not nearly as fast as yours - because I don't monitor through the computer.

+1!!!
 
I monitor my keyboard playing outside the computer as well.  It makes it a lot easier.

Does the Quad Capture not support zero-latency monitoring? If you're monitoring through the computer, then yeh, you're going to have latency issues. I'm not a drummer, but I know that playing piano that way is nearly impossible and I imagine drums are 10x worse. But I have zero issues with latency - even on an old machine not nearly as fast as yours - because I don't monitor through the computer.

Hi Bit,


I'm assuming the OP is talking about triggering soft-sample libraries via the V-drum kit.
If he's just playing/recording the V-drums, yeah... hardware based monitoring will eliminate the latency.

I took  his original statement to mean he is adding drums after the main tracks are already in place and he is trying to monitor a click track off the computer which is aligned to those tracks.

I took his original statement to mean he is adding drums after the main tracks are already in place and he is trying to monitor a click track off the computer which is aligned to those tracks.

 
Reading it again... you're probably right.  

Tripod, you are trying to record the audio from your TD9, while listening to (monitoring) playback from Sonar? Are you monitoring through your audio interface? Do you have input monitoring set/selected in your audio interface?

In Sonar, check "Input Echo" (or is it "Input Monitor"?) setting (button) on the track(s) you are recording your TD9 to, and also "live input PDC" setting on the recording track(s). See the reference manual about those settings (sorry, not at my DAW now to confirm correct terms). But it is a very simple matter.

If the above does not help, you could post your question in the Sonar Producer forum section, as I think this is not actually a hardware latency issue but only a Sonar using/setting problem, and you could get more info there about using Sonar.

Jim Roseberry, thank you for that post. I will later today re-read that and try it out and report back here.

" Tripod, you are trying to record the audio from your TD9, while listening to (monitoring) playback from Sonar? " Yes, that's what i am doing (i think) Is that wrong? I will check out the input echo thing. Thank you.

Bitflipper, what other options are there than monitoring through the computer? I'm not sure i understand this. I use programs like EZdrummer so the TD9 goes through the computer to pick up those sounds. If i play it through an external speaker i ofcourse have no latency but i then obviously can not record or use any kind of drum software. So that's not an option.

You just said you are recording the TD9 audio, then you will monitor at the interface and set the monitoring to "input" or source or what every term it uses. If your system has latency you do not want to listen to the instruments you are recording after it has passed through the computer and back to the interface,,,, you want to monitor it "before" it goes in. Most folks record the MIDI output and then you can edit and play around with way more sound.You can still monitor the audio while tracking.

This:

Tripod, you are trying to record the audio from your TD9, while listening to (monitoring) playback from Sonar? " Yes, that's what i am doing (i think) Is that wrong? I will check out the input echo thing.

 
Is different than this:

I use programs like EZdrummer so the TD9 goes through the computer to pick up those sounds.

 
The first one says you want to record the sounds of the TD9 into the computer (maybe along with the midi data).
The second one says you don't want the TD9 sounds, just the midi data which will trigger EZ drummer.

In the first scenario, you can monitor with headphones at the TD9, capture the midi data at the same time, then use that midi data to trigger EZ. Time shift as needed.

In the second scenario there will be perceived delay from hitting the drums because you are monitoring the sound off EZ after the midi data has been captured and then after it triggers EZ. This is not a great place to monitor from unless you have very fast hardware and exceptional drivers. Alternatively as pointed out above, you can just record at a faster rate to lower your latency.
 
Here is what I use to do before I upgraded my computer. I monitored off the drum module as I am listening to the computer tracks. These are both routed into a headphone amp so I can hear both signals. Then I just record the midi data into the computer during the process. Later I come back and adjust the midi track to time align accurately with the previously recorded guitars and bass.
 
Currently I have low enough latency that I can monitor off the computer but generally, I track the drums early in the process with a guide bass or guitar or click. Then I time come back and make sure the drums are aligned to the click if there is a lag, and then I track the rest of the music.
There may be a better way, but I have not found it yet.