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2014/02/21 10:31:36
SilkTone
I'm a software developer by day and I can tell you that it is practically impossible to write bug-free software. It is like asking someone to write a novel without a spellchecker and expecting them to make zero spelling, typo or grammar mistakes. Software is even worse because you have all these different parts of logic interacting with practically infinite and unpredictable variables.
 
So when writing software, the only thing you can do is triage the bugs and prioritize them, knowing that many of them won't get fixed due to time constraints.
 
Even so, I believe CW has had quite a few bugs that have been strung along with many major releases that should have been fixed much sooner.
2014/02/21 12:27:06
KPerry
Just as a bit of trivia, the original handwriten manuscript of Charles Dickens' A Christmas Carol was what was published, and it had no edits, corrections or spelling mistakes made to it...  Probably the only book ever!
2014/02/21 13:54:34
Bristol_Jonesey
I once saw a program on BBC television about Queen Elizabeth 1st, before she was queen.
 
She wrote entire books and poems without a single mistake
 
Maybe, she was our greatest monarch ever
2014/02/21 22:17:40
Splat
So that's sorted then. Buckingham palace is about 30 mins away from me, I'll kidnap her, send her on plane to the USA by FedEx. Cake can then oversee that she gets coding. I will keep one of her corgis in case she gets any funny ideas...
 
Anyway Steve is right, however I prefer the analogy of a giant crossword puzzle covering the size of a football stadium, with several mistakes built in. There is a guide on how to get to the particular area where things might be, but that's about it. Whilst you are solving the crossword somebody is extending it, bringing in more mistakes as they go along. Not only that there are different translations of this puzzle (German, French, Japan). Not only that the puzzle is in 3D.
2014/02/21 22:52:38
Vastman
 
Can't even begin to imagine the code behind X3... does so much! Alex, you make my head hurt!
 
Well, I for one feel the revs we've gotten for free have continued to enhance and improve X3 in many subtle but worthwhile ways, along with bug fixes so really we are getting the best of both worlds... improvements/enhancements plus bugs be gone...
 
quite a deal and makes me giddy all over!
 
I would suggest Cake actually delay a bit, getting "e" out to a few of the forum's power users who've been so generous and knowledgeable over time and let them take a wack at it. Then, take another month and refine things before putting it out.
 
Baker... you know who's done a great job articulating and surfacing bugs... give these folks an early go and ruminate a bit on the results.  
 
 
 
 
 
 
2014/02/21 23:39:31
Splat
Not in my view, you need to get it to as many users as possible. A few people just won't be able to test all the functionality (or have the hardware combinations). That's why beta testing never really works that well unless you have a massive beta program like Microsoft does. Cake QA would probably do a better job then most "power users", I would assume and/or hope they have automated testing... Just my opinion.
 
Thanks :)
2014/02/22 00:17:28
SuperG
Not only that the puzzle is in 3D.

 
I saw that one - but they said to "Let the Wookie win"...
 
2014/02/22 02:23:44
Anderton
I'm looking into my crystal ball...I see...I see a clock...there it is!
 
Sonar X3e will appear at 11:50:30 AM.
 
What? You want the date too? Jeez. You people are never satisfied.
 
2014/02/22 03:24:20
Vastman
CakeAlexS
Not in my view, you need to get it to as many users as possible. A few people just won't be able to test all the functionality (or have the hardware combinations). That's why beta testing never really works that well unless you have a massive beta program like Microsoft does. Cake QA would probably do a better job then most "power users", I would assume and/or hope they have automated testing... Just my opinion.
 
Thanks :)


Ok, makes sense... geeeeze, Alex... you almost always make sense! are you really in England?
2014/02/22 03:48:14
Bristol_Jonesey
CakeAlexS
So that's sorted then. Buckingham palace is about 30 mins away from me, I'll kidnap her, send her on plane to the USA by FedEx. Cake can then oversee that she gets coding. I will keep one of her corgis in case she gets any funny ideas...

Wrong Lizzie mate - I'm talking about the one born in 1533. (no, not half past three)
Hang on, this could be the current Liz......................
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