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2014/02/23 09:05:17
joey90405
good morning everyone, this is what I got. I have a song where the intro has 3 chords, nothing else. it's recorded loud however when a chord starts to fade there is loads of noise, general electric guitar crap. what I want to do is hear the chord with reverb without the noise. what it sounds like (for you who are old enough) is a loud ass song on a turn table. think of the following, the beginning Emaj chords in "good times bad times" on zeppelins first record or the beginning of "whole lotta love" the chords are separated with very little static. now I know I can go in and re-record it at a civilized level. that's not going to happen. i'm quite sure that whatshisname who was the guitar player in the aforementioned band had his noisy little supro or fender delux cranked.
any ideas?
thanks
oh yes, I am moving from LA to Chicago in april, can someone turn me on to any musicians who play straight up rock and roll? if their is you may contact me here for now.   
2014/02/23 09:24:46
SuperG
My gut reaction would be to try experimenting with a gate/expander first and see if you can get it to work out some of the noise in between chords. It won't be easy, but it's worth a try.
 
The other way is the hard way - manual editing a volume envelope. Another possibility is a multi-band compressor. If there are particularly offensive frequencies - you can apply compression to them and leave off the make-up gain, or even reduce gain if the compressor allows.
 
My cousin does gigs in couple of bands in Chicago and NW Indiana, and he produces several other bands as well. PM me if you're interested. He should be able to fill you in on the scene there and point you where you need to go.
 
2014/02/23 10:45:43
cuitlahac
This might work?.....  if you have Melodyne Editor..... save a copy of everything the way it is..... split the clips in between the chords..............edit the track to  remove the obnoxious stuff from the tails of each split clip....open an ARA Melodyne window for each of those clips and stretch the audio out as far as you need it to ring..... bounce that audio back to SONAR and apply a volume envelope to taper off the chord sustain as needed.

 
I'm assuming power chords and don't really know the context of your song but just had this thought....Might be worth a try?
2014/02/23 11:04:51
CJaysMusic
I would try fixing the problem at its source and not try to put a band aide over a gushing artery. If you do not want it to sound artificial or degrade the sound, you need to fix it at its source.
 
Your Problems can be one, two, three, four, five, six or any combination or all the above. Its up to you to troubleshoot it and find out what is wrong.
 
1.) Electrical (bad ground??)
2.) Bad Guitar Amp or the setting on your guitar amp is not viable for the sound you are going for
3.) Maybe the amp is cannot do what you want.
4.) Bad chords/cables
5.) Bad recording technique
6.) Using wrong mic for that situation
 
I can record chords with reverb without any noise form all my guitar amps and so can thousands of others, so i'm pretty sure you will be able to troubleshoot this and solve your issue
 
CJ
2014/02/23 12:01:02
Sanderxpander
+1 for bad chords.
2014/02/23 12:12:28
bapu
When my cords are bad, I put on gaberdine.
 
Then I step out on the town.
 
Or I slip edit and time stretch as necessary.
 
 
Either way I'm golden.
2014/02/23 12:14:13
Cactus Music
Part of the noisy guitar issue is evident in his avatar.. That's right a Strat.. probably stock PU's. AKA not Humbuckers, I think? Mr Page used Humbuckers... 
2014/02/23 12:22:40
Lynn
p.s.-Strats can be well recorded, power chords and all.  Think Hendrix, Clapton, Beck.  CJ has the answer in one of his suggestions.  It sounds like the wrong amp setting to me, or the wrong amp.
2014/02/23 14:16:08
Kev999
joey90405
...when a chord starts to fade there is loads of noise, general electric guitar crap. what I want to do is hear the chord with reverb without the noise...



This is what I might try (although without hearing it I don't know whether it would work).  I would split the clip along each of the crappy-sounding sections into smaller clips.  Use clip fade on all them and shrink them all by a suitable amount.  Use a short multiple delay to fill out the silent sections.  Add a reverb to the delayed signal but not to the main track.  Duck the delayed signal under the main power chord hits.
2014/02/23 16:15:53
chuckebaby
I second the 60 cycle hum that strats omit.
they need to be moved around just right to hit the silent zone at times.
 keep in mind, Hendrix, Clapton, Beck weren't recording in front of a CPU monitor ;-)
IMO that's what really lites it up.
only an opinion but also something to think about
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