• SONAR
  • Stereo v. Mono "interleave" and mixing (p.2)
2009/02/10 17:25:30
Treefight
BOW YOUR HEAD!!!
2009/02/10 19:54:38
John

ORIGINAL: Treefight

John - my question was not very specific, you are correct - the reason being that I didn't know enough to ask a better question. I apologize.

Since booting up Sonar and checking the help files (and the signal flow chart...) I have learned the answer to what I was trying to ask, which is that the interleave button simply determines whether the a track's "signal enters an effect or chain of effects as mono or stereo, regardless of the nature of the track" (quoting Sonar 8PE Help File, "Changing Track Settings" page).

As to my "width" comment, I was saying that a track sometimes sounds wider when interleave select is on "stereo" as opposed to mono. But that's probably because I likely had a stereo effect in the bin (e.g., S1, Channel Tools) and, therefore, the track (effect, actually) was working better with interleave set to stereo.

Thanks very much


Cool!
2009/02/10 20:25:25
plectrumpusher
Just to further edumacte others who may dig this thread up later , some older stereo effects take the right and left and either sum them or dump one side all together then use delay , chourusing or phase tricks and other reverb DSP to generate a right and left "stereoized " version. That's how they can take a mono signal and make it sound stereo . More sophisticated pluggs maintain the left and right signal paths but as a result they sometimes don't "stereoize" mono signals .

Sorry if that is'nt 1000 words ! some of you earlier posters should Please feel free to elaborate and share more of your wisdom on this subject.I'm always looking to pick up all I can learn about all things stereo !!!
2009/02/10 20:31:38
...wicked
I'm a big fan of mono sources wherever possible, so I can't say as I'm a big fan of "fake stereo". however, sometimes just wanna make that guitar/string/pad/etc. just fill up your soundstage. Especially when you start slathering on some verb or other time-based effect.
2009/02/10 20:37:51
plectrumpusher
agreed ,
to many faux stereo tracks only give you "Big Mono "
2009/02/10 20:42:11
plectrumpusher
John ,
I read that thread you linked and all I can say is that you are a very patient man !
2009/02/10 21:02:51
John
John ,
I read that thread you linked and all I can say is that you are a very patient man !

That is a really nice thing to say. It made me laugh too. Its really great when someone understands things as I believe you do. Thanks.
2009/02/10 23:18:41
rocket
John,

Normally, I wouldn't reply to this thread or drag up arguments from another thread, but, I too read the (lengthy) thread that you linked above and feel compelled to express my observations. It seems that the main thrust of both arguments were correct...you arguing the merits of the sonic characteristics of a stereo sound source vs. he arguing the merits of panning two or more mono sources within a stereo field to produce a single composite stereo image. Both arguments are valid and seemingly unrelated, i.e, apples to oranges.

the threads have been entertaining, though...thanks for the input.
2009/02/10 23:30:22
John
John,

Normally, I wouldn't reply to this thread or drag up arguments from another thread, but, I too read the (lengthy) thread that you linked above and feel compelled to express my observations. It seems that the main thrust of both arguments were correct...you arguing the merits of the sonic characteristics of a stereo sound source vs. he arguing the merits of panning two or more mono sources within a stereo field to produce a single composite stereo image. Both arguments are valid and seemingly unrelated, i.e, apples to oranges.

the threads have been entertaining, though...thanks for the input.

I think you may have missed the basic point of the thread. Also why I engaged in it.
2009/02/11 11:01:08
dcastle
Greetings,

Since nobody answered my implied question…

ORIGINAL: dcastle
The interleave has a huge affect on mono tracks that have stereo reverb applied to the effects bin. See if you can figure it out and describe it in 1000 words or less.

If you put a stereo reverb on an interleaved mono track and then pan it, you are not panning the mono signal and adding stereo reverb — which is probably what you would think — but you are changing the stereo balance of an effectively center panned signal with a stereo reverb. These are completely different and don't sound the same at all.

The only way to pan a mono signal and apply stereo reverb is to pan the signal in its track and use a post fader send to a 100% wet reverb bus!

Regards,
David
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