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2014/02/10 18:57:13
dubdisciple
I like how reaper does this one thing better than audiosnap and there are a few other things I like but overall Reaper is not for me.
2014/02/10 19:13:08
SuperG
I'm sure Reaper is a great product, but it's too just hard to get past all the ugly....
2014/02/10 19:45:05
Geo524
I like Reaper and use it too although I have not installed it on my new PC yet. Time stretching audio is flawless and customization is over the top but Reaper's file management was a PITA for me. Once you get it set up it's okay. Also you have to be careful with the "clean project" folder. I lost audio tracks to other songs even with the option checked to send the files to the recycle bin. It didn't work for me. All in all though I think Reaper is a nice DAW and the cost of a license is next to nothing. I'll just stay with Sonar as my main DAW and keep Reaper as a back up.
2014/02/10 21:15:56
...wicked
I'll have to check out what improvements they've made. Last time I srsly used reaper was v3 and this process was NOT elegant. 
2014/02/10 22:22:03
wst3
Ain't none of them perfect (except the one you haven't tried)...
 
So I went back and tried to map the time line to a new recording - the one I used in Reaper - and the set m/b here function worked flawlessly. Not that I don't know that the material plays a big part - and just how sloppily I played with the timing when I played...
 
I ran into my favorite "invalid m/b" message only twice tonight... so either Sonar is getting better, or maybe I am?
2014/02/11 00:24:20
Dyonight
hehe!
 
In fact I won't be able to forget Sonar since I used it intensively for a couple of years and now that x3d is very stable I'll probably mix and master my projects in Sonar.
 
The thing I find the most frustrating is that Audiosnap have real potential and I've (painfuly...) had great results with it. 
 
It's just not reliable enough and frustrating beyond words..... if they could add some control over the transient detection and correct some glitches I would use Sonar exclusively but Reaper just absolutely nailed it.
 
Cake, fix audiosnap. Seriously. It's these kind of tools that awake latent serial killers...
2014/02/11 03:40:41
FastBikerBoy
There are some freebie videos on Audiosnap on my youtube page and it's covered in depth in my SWA X2 Complete video (links for both in my sig).
 
Audiosnap isn't the most intuitive part of the program but I've found that a few basic housekeeping tasks before use make a huge difference to how successful you'll find it.
 
One of the most important is to trim and bounce clips before even opening audiosnap, stray noises such as studio chit chat at the start of clips will create havoc.
 
Make sure the project tempo is roughly correct before starting which will save a heap of time adjusting the tempo map. Drag clips and line up the first down beat with a measure line also helps.
 
An accurate tempo map is also important.
 
After I spent an awful long time using a "suck it and see" approach and finding out about some of those tips the success I had with audiosnap went up tenfold. The biggest problem I used to have was the dreaded "tempo out of range" - bouncing the clip will stop most of that. It's caused by errant transient detection and Sonar thinks it has to generate a tempo greater than 1000 bpm to compensate, hence the message.
 
To summarize I find it works pretty well (I'd even argue very well) but it does take some learning and could certainly be more intuitive.
2014/02/11 07:05:34
thebiglongy
I have to agree with it not being the most intuitive of things, I have avoided it mainly because of some of the issues mentioned above.
If I have to do any audiosnapping, I tend to do most of it in Ableton as it is much easier.
2014/02/11 09:31:34
Pict
As far as reaper being ugly it's simple to change the  look and feel with one of the hundreds of themes.I use the WT imperial theme and I think it is beautiful.I haven't used Sonar since I bought Reaper a short while ago and I don't think I'll be so quick to upgrade Sonar in the future if at all.Sonar is feature packed and offers  a lot of bang for the buck but for me it doesn't offer as smooth a recording experience as I had hoped for.I still use Logic but Reaper has really surprised me with how glitch free it runs,how many great features it has,its constant flow of updates and bug fixes, and how light on the computer resources it is.For the price of a cheap plugin it's astounding and it seems to improve all the time.
2014/02/11 09:39:54
rontarrant
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