Hi, i'm a long time user of Sonar since v1 and, if i remember correctly, i've always been able to drag clips to the right or left in the track pane view and have them lay right where i drop them. In X2, CWalk never fixed this.
 
You probably know what i'm talking about - the bug you encounter when you grab a clip and drag it, say a millimeter of an inch or so, and when you let go of the mouse button, the clip falls a little more to the right or left than you intended.  So i've had to use the arrow keys for precision ever since X1. 
 
So my question is, before i give CWalk a $150 to fix all the bugs they didn't in X2, can someone here confirm they they've fixed this?
Thanks guys..
 
Tim

I haven't had that problem at all in any version. Also that isn't slip editing. Slip editing is rolling up one or the other end of a clip to trim it.  It called that because its nondestructive. 

sounds like you have snap to grid enabled with the magnetic strength set incorrectly

Oh yeah that's right, i forgot. I also read in another forum or two, elsewhere, where others were complaining about this - i guess there's nothing to call it except 'moving a clip' right or left. Ok, so in X1 and X2, when you clicked on a audio clip, for instance, and wanted to move it up a centimeter or two, you're saying that it always laid exactly where you placed it, the moment you let go of the mouse button??  
 
Not only can i not do this on Win7 (or on my other OS - WinXP), but there's so many other little things that are just irritating with X2 and my daw's a typical 'Wintel' system honing to perfection. I've been doing this for a very long time so i'm pretty sure it's the app, not to mention all the threads posted about how screwy vX2 was and how that Cake didn't care to do a thing about it, except fix them all in X3 and not a X2 update.  You didn't read of these things here last year??
 
Anyway, does anyone else know if all the bugs and whatnot have been remedied in X3 before i pay Cake for
an X3 update?
 
Blessings.. 

Hmmm, i'll check that Mike. Thanks.

Artdude
Oh yeah that's right, i forgot. I also read in another forum or two, elsewhere, where others were complaining about this - i guess there's nothing to call it except 'moving a clip' right or left. Ok, so in X1 and X2, when you clicked on a audio clip, for instance, and wanted to move it up a centimeter or two, you're saying that it always laid exactly where you placed it, the moment you let go of the mouse button??  
 
Not only can i not do this on Win7 (or on my other OS - WinXP), but there's so many other little things that are just irritating with X2 and my daw's a typical 'Wintel' system honing to perfection. I've been doing this for a very long time so i'm pretty sure it's the app, not to mention all the threads posted about how screwy vX2 was and how that Cake didn't care to do a thing about it, except fix them all in X3 and not a X2 update.  You didn't read of these things here last year??
 
Anyway, does anyone else know if all the bugs and whatnot have been remedied in X3 before i pay Cake for
an X3 update?
 
Blessings.. 

I move tracks, that is, the audio on a track as well as clips and have never had a problem placing it exactly where I wanted it. Mudgle had the answer, I have snap to grid off. 
 
As far as "other bugs" I couldn't say because it would depend on which bugs you are asking about. For me there are no show stopper bugs in X3d. But all software has bugs X3 included. That said CW has done an outstanding job of getting rid of the bugs that caused instability.
 
A lot of the complaints posted boil down to minor bugs or just good old fashion user error. There is no sin in failing to understand how X3 works but it can give others the wrong impression. Because people read a post that is complaining about a so called bug they may not study it deep enough to find it really isn't. Its a misunderstanding of how a feature works.
 
When X1 came out we had a slew of posts claiming a lot of basic features were removed not to mention most of the more advanced ones. It was shown by me that that was simply untrue. Still even after I pointed out where CW had moved the feature people still were claiming features were missing. 
 
Because the only way to be sure that X3 is for you is to try it, I strongly suggest you get the trial of 3 and test it on your own system. If you run into problems we are here and able to help.    

Why don't you install the demo?

In X2, dragging and dropping a clip often failed to work properly (the clip landed on a completely different track). I haven't experienced that since upgrading to X3.

Snap to grid is already off. What i'm referring to is very slight - like one or two 'bits', not 'bytes', being off after i move a clip.  I've been using the nudge feature with my arrows to compensate. I would have to upload a short video to explain what i'm talking about. Again it's only a few bits (there's 8 bits in a byte).
 
Yes, i'm already aware of everything your saying John. And thanks for trying to help out, but as i said, i've been working with Sonar since v1, teach music, daw setups, recording, have already released 2 CDs, etc, etc, what i'm referring to is an increase in complaints and bugs reports over and above that of the usual ones that appear, after each version which has been released via the past 13 incarnations of Sonar now.
 
I vividly remember last year or so when X3 came out, the complains of bugs, idiosyncrasies, etc, were greater than that which other incarnations of Sonar have incurred. That's what i meant. I know all software has bugs, i program some myself in object pascal.  I'm referring to a increase in bug reports, etc, particularly with X2. Cake only released one freakin update (a), and many here complained about it, myself included, that Cake/Roland should tie up the loose ends - just as they've done on every other version they're released - and that we shouldn't have to pay for that.
 
Anyway, it's late where i live. I'm off to bed. It's not that big a deal. I was just wondering, to put it a different more simplistic way, has CW/Roland smoothed out, in X3, most of what didn't get ironed out in an expected "a, b, c, or d" build?  It seems they have, if the love you guys have of it is any indication. I've used nothing else since v1 for all my projects.  I may just upgrade yet :)
 
Anyway, thanks guys..
Tim

upload a video, I have no idea what your talking about and have never heard of any such issue on this board or any other for that matter.
as mike said, snap is the only thing that what make a clip do this.
 
I work with a lot of audio, which isn't lined up to the grid at times, this means it has to be put precisely in place.
x1, x2 and now x3, cant say ive seen this.
 
you can always download a demo.