• Hardware
  • Finally moved in to my new recording space (p.3)
2012/09/12 12:35:40
bitflipper
Putting a free standing dsp in between your I/O and your speakers adds approx 2.4ms (on a good day) to every thing you listen too!

Where did you get that figure, Mike? Of course, any digital processor is going to add some latency, but 2.4ms sounds way too high. A software EQ wouldn't add that much unless it had a 105kb buffer (4.1kb would be considered a large buffer).


Not that it's important. An extra 2.4ms during mixing/mastering would not be noticeable. I usually mix with 2048-sample buffers anyway, which is 46ms.
2012/09/12 12:55:16
The Maillard Reaction

I quote that figure off the top of my head.

1.2ms A-to-D is about as fast as anyone is getting it done... to the best of my knowledge.

Add another 1.2ms D-to-A and that is the other half of the 2.4ms.

I'll assume that the dsp process can actually happen faster than real time so I didn't add any for that and called it a "good day".


As always, I welcome corrections.








When mixing I don't think latency, even 46ms, is an issue until your start turning a knob and "use your ears" to hear stuff that doesn't even happen for, well.. let's say another 46ms.

Watching guys do that while they are acting like they are hearing the subtlety of a small knob twist cracks me up.

Good times!




all the best,
mike
2012/09/12 13:12:26
bitflipper
Yup, I don't worry about latency at all when mixing, only when tracking. And then I'm using zero-latency monitoring out of the headphone outputs on the interface, and never use computer-based effects while tracking.

The nicest aspects of hardware EQ is that a) you don't have to switch it off prior to exporting your song, and b) it has zero CPU overhead. Oh, and c) it adds some nice lights to your rack.
2012/09/12 13:25:25
The Maillard Reaction

:-)

Plus you get to play your 78's through it. No?

:-)
2012/09/12 18:46:29
bitflipper
Oh yeh, those 78s sound much better with a little 40Hz rolled off them.
2012/09/12 20:30:29
Guitarpima
There is nothing like lights to impress. Everybody is transfixed by the lights! lol!
2012/09/15 02:35:46
LpMike75
Images and Words is a fantastic sounding album.  The drums sounds are amazing!  A friend told me they replaced the snare with a sample snare on that album. but I havent confirmed that. 

Gratz on the room, looking foward to pics.
2012/09/15 12:13:25
bitflipper
Drum replacement is more common than you'd think, the dirty little secret nobody talks about but everybody quietly indulges in. Even Rudess records his parts as MIDI so they can be subsequently edited. Aural trickery is everywhere.
2012/09/15 18:47:23
bapu
bitflipper


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