• SONAR
  • recording rehearsals problem
2014/02/08 11:03:54
viziovizio
hi, i use sonar to also record all band rehearsals.the problem i have is i can't find a quick and easy way to distribute a recording of the practice to the guys in the 10 min. we usually have of talking after practice. 2 of the guys have sonar x2 pro like myself so i would think it would be easy to burn them a copy or drag them a usb bundle file, but incredibly i am finding this very hard to accomplish as the practices are 45 min long and they lose their gusto if i keep walking out into the control room after every song and rerecording new tracks.(the other strange thing is that when dragging what says it's a 13gig bundle onto a 16 gig usb doesn't fit?) (also of note the reason i am dragging a huge bundle is so that it will open on their systems.correct?) could someone please help me find a better way of passing out the recording of the day so these guys can listen in their cars. i also find the quick burn in sonar frustrating, never can get it to burn a disk. i have to drag it into sound forge and use cd architect from there.(very time consuming)    (also of note i am recording 16 tracks of the rehearsals, most of which is necessary.)
here are my specs.   win 7 64, sonar x2 pro, i7, 8 gig. roland studio capture ,mostly in the box
 
dear lord why can i create great cd recordings but not make a quick and easy practice disk?lol
 
2014/02/08 11:54:59
WDI
The USB is probably formatted with the Fat32 file system which has a 4GB file size limit. That's the generic error message you get when that happens.

Not sure but you may be able to format the USB drive as NTFS which allows for much larger file sizes.

But if your using per project audio folders then you don't need to create a bundle file. Just drag the folder onto the USB drive.

However, if they just need a mix down, why not just mix down to mp3 and give them the files. Seems much easier.
2014/02/08 12:05:04
viziovizio
thankx wdi, i ll try that. i ll need a converter as i don't have the extra mp3 option on x2. never paid for it once it ran out. this does seem like the best way a mixdown. why didn't i see this. thank you
 
2014/02/08 12:14:38
robert_e_bone
Why don't you just export audio to create a quick and dirty CD?
 
I saw you do not have the MP3 license, but you can either configure one of the free ones available, OR you could just export it to a wav file and burn it to CD that way.
 
Bob Bone
 
2014/02/08 12:20:18
viziovizio
thankx bob. i ll try that. i appreciate the help guys.
2014/02/08 13:20:01
WDI
One program that I often have used to break up band practice recordings into individual mp3 files is Nero WaveEditor. It's a free program found here.

http://www.nero.com/enu/downloads/

Scroll down towards the bottom of the page and it's listed under the free programs.

The reason I use that program is because sadly, Sonar still can not use markers to export individual songs as a batch. That's what Nero WaveEditor does very efficiently. It will also convert wave to MP3.

So for me the procedure goes something like...
1. Do a quick mix in Sonar and export 44.1/16 wave of entire practice.
2. Open the wave file in Nero WaveEditor and place track markers (the markers missing in Sonar).
3. Export to individual tracks as MP3 which is a batch process in Nero WaveEditor).

I realize your trying to do this fast as your friends are sitting around waiting. You also mentioned not wanting to use markers. But this is the quickest way I've found to of this. I really like the wave editor in Nero. I found its interface very quick using the mouse wheel to quickly zoom in and out to place markets accurately.
2014/02/08 13:24:51
WDI
If you do try this, make sure you export the wave from sonar as 44/16. I've encountered problems opening up waves at higher bit rate / sample rates in Nero WaveEditor. Not sure which one was the problem or both. Never tried troubleshooting it.
2014/02/08 19:24:40
viziovizio
back to square one wdi, it still takes like 20 min to export a 45 min session. still looking for an easy FAST way to dump the info and let the guys have it before they leave practice.
2014/02/08 19:44:06
viziovizio
20 min of waiting seems to be all I can do guys and gals. any suggestions? how do you do it? burn fast copies that is.
 
2014/02/08 20:00:51
robert_e_bone
If these are just recorded practices, perhaps simplifying what you are recording would shorten the export time.
 
Are you recording to a bunch of separate tracks, or are you able to just record to 2 tracks using output from a mixer?  I would think just exporting 2 pre-mixed tracks from a mixer would be much quicker than bouncing a bunch of separate tracks, and after all, this is just a recording of a rehearsal.
 
Would that work?
 
Bob Bone
 
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