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  • Isn't it Time? Sonar X2 on OSX (p.7)
2014/01/12 11:35:27
Blades
Between the cost of entry in the market (as pointed out at so many levels above), the low number of relative users, the fact that MACs are becoming more and more PC-like as time goes on (but still somehow with less flexibility), and more and more vendors seeming to pull out of the MAC desktop/laptop market in preference to the iOS market, which is great but not a suitable replacement, I simply can't see Cakewalk going this direction.  Further, the likes of Bootcamp basically make it non-conversation since that effectively makes a MAC a PC, not "like" one. 
 
Except for Keni (who it sounds like didn't "choose" to use a Mac), I really can't understand the number of people I hear of who buy a Mac just to run 90% Windows software on it either through Bootcamp or Parallels or something.  We actually had a client come in last week whose husband talked her into a Mac last year - she wasn't using the Mac side of things, only needing the Windows software for her business life - she simply had a hard time using the Mac OSX side for anything, so it was effectively a very expensive PC.  She bought a Lenovo (one of the better-built PC manufacturers these days), transferred all her stuff, and is ready to get rid of the Mac laptop at this point.
 
Just a few thoughts.
2014/01/12 12:25:04
Pragi
Agreed,
I would like to see Sonar X3 OSX implemented,
but as an ex- logic user I would also like logic windows implemented,
for me the best of both world´s.
The development-costs for osx implementation for a small company like cake seems 
to be still too high and as above mentioned, there 
are really some  fellows here reporting running Sonar via bootcamp without problems.
 
I think that this 2 systems will  be more compatible soon  .
 
2014/01/12 12:38:21
Anderton
joakes

Also, for the "new" Mackie and Behringer mixers, sure its interesting, but give me a real slider anyday than a finger swipe. And the iPads are only control devices not the mixers, which lets face it, do the majority of the work.
I await to see your designs for integrating USB and HDMI.........

Digitech have a pedal board that you programme (that is the operative word) using your iPad. But when you're using the thing live as a glorified stomp box, then i would not like my iPad any where near my clumsy feet.




I've worked with these devices, so have some real-world comments. I was very surprised at the Mackie mixer interface. They made everything big so it's easy to use - you can actually mix something like a coffeehouse act or small ensemble with it, and it's not really intended to be used for much more than that. They did a very good job on the UI.
 
The DigiTech iPB-10 never sold very well but I think DigiTech made a huge mistake with the marketing. You do not need to have the iPad in the unit. You can program it with the iPad and have your sounds and stomps ready to go, then leave the iPad at home and then the iPB-10 just becomes a regular pedalboard. It deserved to do much better than it did - it sounded great and was very capable.
2014/01/12 12:41:57
Anderton
Bogman
 
Interesting thread - excuse me a minute... "Hey Cakewalk, what are you doing about all these tablets and stuff?"



Cakewalk released their first iPad app last year and it's pretty cool. It was kinda flakey at first, but version 1.1 is a whole lot better.
2014/01/12 12:43:47
FLZapped
I have to disagree. Pro Tools is now available on Windows. If the Mac was that dominant, why would they spend the money and direct their resources to make it available on the PC/Windows platform?
 
If you sort through the archives, you'll find that Cakewalk DID try to port SONAR over, but found that it would take a major rewriting of the code to make it work. They did not have the resources to devote to such a large project and abandoned it.
 
Quite frankly, I'd rather them concentrate on what they know and do it the best they can, rather than water themselves down. We all know that there are bugs that haven't been addressed in many of the product being out - can you imagine if they had to further divide up their resources?
 
-Bruce
2014/01/12 12:53:47
John
Back in the 90s PT was on the PCs. 
2014/01/12 13:21:48
mmorgan
I like the tonality of this thread but I find it really strange. Cakewalk writes a version of Sonar for OSX? Apple writes a version of Logic X for a Windows? This, to me, seems really bizarre at this point in time.
 
My take is this: I've been watching the videos and tutorials for Logic X and I must admit that I would really like to give it a workout, to the point where, knowing it is only available on OSX, I've been toying with purchasing a Mac. I would expect my OSX brothers and sisters to do the opposite or run Sonar in bootcamp.
 
OTH: I'd really like to see a version of Sonar for OS-2. 
 
Regards,
2014/01/12 14:21:42
Bristol_Jonesey
I would hate to see resources being channeled away from what I consider to be their core business - improving the current product line by fixing bugs, adding new tools and improving workflows.
 
If the decision was made to start writing it all so it would run on OSX, we Windows users would be waiting for a long time before any notable improvements fell our way.
 
For me it's a non-starter
2014/01/12 17:10:20
Splat
Linux all the way for me, only way that would happen is if Sonar goes open source, however there's more chance of abandoning PC and going Apple than that (so zero then). Cheers...
2014/01/12 17:33:54
ampfixer
Cakewalk would make a huge mistake if they went OSX. Think about it. If they did a MAC version they'd have to start from scratch with a new bucket of code. All the ongoing issues and carry over bugs would be gone. They might as well get that gapless engine in the process. The MAC version would probably be smoother and slicker, how would all the long term users feel about that? It would light up these forums so much you'd have to call the fire brigade. I remember when S1 came out. Everyone said they got it right because they weren't dragging legacy code.
 
If OSX Sonar was successful, it would disrupt their PC product line and user base. IMHO, YMMV.
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