• SONAR
  • Sonar v/ Protools (p.2)
2014/01/25 11:18:27
CJaysMusic
Look at it like this. There both Hammers. One hammer has an orange handle and the other hammer has a blue handle. Both can hammer nails the same exact way.
 
One will not record tracks better and one will not mix songs better. (Just select the hammer you like the best)
 
Cj
2014/01/25 11:53:25
Splat
Either way you will get hammered!
2014/01/25 16:58:55
konradh
Perhaps from the current version forward things will be better, but PT has a history of both hardware and file compatibility problems after new releases.
2014/01/25 17:41:09
Vab
PT 11 = £549

Sonar X3 Producer & Melodyne Editor & Addictive Keys = £350 and loads of tutorial videos plus this forum.

That the only difference I see.
2014/01/25 17:46:20
gswitz
CakeAlexS
Either way you will get hammered!


Lol
2014/01/25 17:49:22
Splat
If Cake included a compressor, gate, limiter and reverb that looked as good and worked as well as the quadcurve, which had a pullout x/y graph, worked as vst3 and on pro channel, dumped all legacy plugins, revised and modernised the menus so it was slick, and got all its bugs fixed that would be enough to sell x4 in buckets IMHO.
2014/01/25 19:23:35
cclarry
I've cloned several C drives without issue...

The major advantage to PT is it is in more Studio's, Pro and otherwise, then Sonar will ever be...
 
That being said...I hate it...the only reason it is considered the "Industry Standard" is that it got 
a foothold years ago, and has the HD option, which is hardware based, making it far more usable in a 
Studio environment.  Actually, Cubase is in more Studios worldwide, but PT is the Standard here.
(Not going to argue that point - as many will want to)

Now to brass tacks...if you're looking for an awesome workflow and user experience...X3 hands down.
That's MY opinion.  I use them all, and for me X3's workflow and interface are Tres Excelant!

The others will have some better features, but nothing that you really can't live without or replicate in
another way (except Cubase's VST Expression).  X3 doesn't have the best Score Editing either - by
far.


X3 also contains more instruments and plugins then any other program I know of, making it a 
great value.  It would have been better had they not put so much 3rd party content that they
had to raise the price (again IMHO) but if Cakes wants to shoot themselves in the foot, who
am I to stop them?

PT 11 now has the AAX format for plugins, which everyone seems to be adapting to, making what
you currently use as VST's available to PT 11 users...

Bottom line....USE WHAT WORKS BEST FOR YOU....try them...figure out what "feels right" for you
and buy it and learn it.
2014/01/25 20:05:20
chuckebaby
I look at it this way, the time spent learning new feature on a new DAW can be spent learning more about sonar and the different features it provides that you don't know as much about.
sometimes I find something in sonar and I say OMG, I never realized I could do that.
its just another thing that I didn't realize was like a little gem hidden,
2014/01/25 20:23:17
Sanderxpander
I like much of Sonar's bundled stuff but I'm not sure you could say it comes with more than any other DAW. Perhaps if you count the dry number of fx plugins but many of those are really really out of date. They could be useful in a pinch but the quality of freely available VSTs is at least as good. If you count the number of "premium" or "currently relevant" VSTs, Sonar sure makes a decent effort, but Logic does at least as well, and I don't Cubase or Live are very far behind.

I like how Sonar makes deals with quality third party developers, but bundling the BlueTubes is undercut by not making them available outside of Sonar (same as with a bunch of other fx). I guess this isn't different from other DAWs but it COULD have been a real plus to Sonar and it's not, currently.
2014/01/25 20:53:34
joden
cclarry
...................Actually, Cubase is in more Studios worldwide, but PT is the Standard here.
(Not going to argue that point - as many will want to).................
.

and you know this because??? No argument as I am not saying it isn't so, but where does this "fact" come from?
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