• SONAR
  • ASIO drivers (p.2)
2014/01/31 17:10:01
scook
This is not a Windows setup issue. If anything changing things in Windows may be causing some of the problem. Windows should be setup to use any device other than the AudioBox. Sure, the AudioBox will show up in Windows but it should not be used for Windows audio. The SONAR i/o setup is all handled in SONAR. Windows can interfere with SONAR and cause "Unable to open audio record device." errors.
 
Running at 44.1/16 is as basic as it gets. Every device in this thread should handle that fine. It is possible to record and monitor using the AudioBox and then playback through a different device but it will require making the appropriate setup changes in SONAR each time a different device is used.
2014/01/31 17:26:39
tindog13
If I were any more confused, my head would pop right off my neck. Okay, nothing AudioBox is selected in the Windows setup. Nothing but AudioBox is selected in Sonar. I'm still getting the same message, still can't use Sonar with AudioBox.
2014/01/31 17:32:47
scook
All of this started after the Xonar DS was installed, it might be a good idea to remove this card. The card was not necessary to begin with. If the card uses ASIO4ALL, remove it. Make sure the AudioBox is using the Presonus driver and not ASIO4ALL.
2014/01/31 17:44:06
tindog13
The was bought in an attempt to account for latency, without the ASIO drivers, how do I do that?
2014/01/31 18:14:21
tindog13
Okay, removed the new sound card and uninstalled its drivers. In Sonar, somehow, I'm still getting AudioBox ASIO driver option, which I wasn't getting before I installed the sound card, but I'm also still getting the message and cannot get Sonar to playback or record. Also, on the I/O options for the tracks, I'm not getting the RealTek options I had before. I'll play with that, but if there are anymore suggestions I'd appreciate it. The next step, I guess, is to uninstall Sonar and AudioBox and everything else related and start over.
2014/01/31 18:18:36
scook
Hold the Control and Shift keys when starting SONAR. This will reset SONAR back to factory settings. It should still see the AudioBox but check the setup anyway. If this does not work, uninstall the AudioBox software, reboot and resintall it.
2014/01/31 19:10:01
tindog13
I give up, any suggestions are appreciated. I've uninstalled and reinstalled everything and their drivers, held down Ctrl/Shift... I'm back to no ASIO drivers and Sonar will playback my tracks now, but in the speakers it's great, in the headphones, through the AudioBox, it's broken up, sounds like it's underwater. I've downloaded the latest drivers from Presonus, again, they won't install, they seem to think the system is trying to install drivers, it is not, but I have to option. I'll try it again later... maybe.
2014/01/31 19:21:56
scook
This is progress...of a sort.
I suspect SONAR is now running in MME mode which is guaranteed to sound bad with the AudioBox. You may need to contact Presonus to get help with installing their drivers. Running the Presonus ASIO drivers will solve the performance issues with the AudioBox. It will still be necessary to switch driver modes in SONAR from ASIO to MME when using the PC sound card.
2014/01/31 21:38:06
spacealf
There should be ASIO drivers for the Presonus and line outputs to run to the speakers from the images I saw.
 
USB Audio Interface, 2-in/2-out, with 2 Microphone/Instrument Preamplifiers, 2 1/4" Outputs, MIDI I/O, and 1/4" Headphone Output with Studio One Artist Software - 24-bit/48kHz
 
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/AudioBoxUSB/
 
I run my computer speakers (I have a RME Babyface) as well as headphones out of the unit. With the Pesonus AudioBox you have Main Outs L and R to hook up powered speakers - which most computer speakers are, as well as listen to headphones from the unit - look at the back image, as well as a MIDI connection into and out of the computer, all of handled by USB.
 
I fail to see why you are not hooking everything up to the Presonus AudioBox - with a 1/4" adaptor to a mini-plug (3.5mm) used for some headphones, while someheadphones include the 1/4 adaptor. A mono version if using the main outs (L and R) can be used usually bought at a electronic store - 1/4" to mini-plug mono for each channel (L and R) to hook up you speakers, if that is a stereo connection like a headphone cord, then they also have a connection adaptor for that also where you get both (L and R) 1/4" plugs to a stereo mini-plug which you then can plug in your computer speakers in a single short cord - L is usually white or grey and R is usually red on the short cord. (if you were running video that way you would have a yellow colored part of the cord too). That is all standard and probably costs maybe $5 for the entire cord, although it could cost a little more.
 
Then you can always plug headphones into the back of the Audiobox and also your speakers into the Audiobox, and everything is running through the Audiobox.
 
http://www.revouninstaller.com/revo_uninstaller_free_download.html
 
Version 2.5.9 down on the bottom works good if you want a program just to see if you have any strangler files on your computer and check it out. Usually you can do the same thing in Windows in the Control Panel -> Programs and Features to uninstall drivers - but if you had changed drivers, are not using drivers since the sound card is out, Windows 7 keeps a copy of every driver for sound or graphics you ever had in your computer. That program may help to delete any drivers not going to be used since you took the extra sound card out.
 
The other way is to right click on Computer Desktop Icon and get up Properties. Get up Device Manager and Delete anything extra in Sound, Video, Game Controllers and uninstall the drivers (yes Windows still have them there perhaps) and restart your computer  until Windows 7 can not find any drivers for any of the sound cards - probably just the Presonus since you may have un-install the other sound card drivers. But, that program link can also find files left over by programs that did not fully un-install (those do that, ya, know) until it is reasonable sure that you have nothing there for Windows 7 to install once you start up your computer with your AudioBox connected. (if old drivers Windows will install those until you delete them all, and do that until you restart your computer and it finds no drivers.) I just went through that with the RME Babyface I have, because RME over the last year a quarter came out with several newer versions of drivers and they did not have an un-install program before. I had old drivers - 6 to 7 of them still on the computer because Windows 7 is a pack rat with that stuff. I uninstalled them all by deleting the Babyface out of Device Manager also checking for Windows to un-install the drivers and doing that by restarting the computer several times to delete all of them.
 
The program listed though may find drivers that are not needed (since you removed those other sound cards) that are not attached to any device now, and perhaps find them and then delete all that stuff.
 
You should not need anything except the Presonus AudioBox for everything with the newest drivers from Presonus that work (which should include the ASIO drivers, the Windows drivers like the WDM/KS whatever which will give latency, or the MME drivers which also are bad. The ASIO drivers are the only ones that will account for latency and what you record and what you hear will be at the same time, and not delayed by the drivers).
 
Think simple, you need no other unit except the AudioBox and to me, you can run your speakers from your computer and also listen on headphones by plugging into the back of the AudioBox. I do the same thing on my Babyface except I have one more headphone jack so I run my computer speakers from that, can listen to headphones also, and also have the output jacks that I can run to other powered speakers if I want to.
 
If I did not and only had one output for speakers I may have to switch speakers to listen to more than one set of speakers, but I use my computer speakers usually more than anything else except the headphones.
 
That is about it, simple, everything through the AudioBox, set up in Sonar with the outputs and inputs from the Audiobox and every sound through the Audiobox, whether movie, game, utube, itunes, your recordings whatever.
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To me it is that simple.
 
2014/01/31 21:44:05
spacealf
If you do it any other way, then of course you have to use the Windows drivers and you will have latency using the WDM/KS whatever or MME drivers. Well, that is up to you but ASIO drivers are the only ones that will account for the latency and Scook handled the rest as what is permitted when using more than one sound card in a computer.
 
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