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2014/01/31 22:17:09
Kev999
tindog13
Somewhere in this forum I read that I should be using the ASIO drivers, which my sound card did not support. I purchased a sound card that does (Xonar DS) and installed it...



An audio interface such as a Presonus AudioBox functions as a soundcard and makes both the onboard Realtek audio and the Xonar DS card redundant. As Spacealf suggests, try connecting everything to the Presonus and disable the other two devices.
2014/02/01 02:53:19
tindog13
Wow, thanx for all the responses... haven't solved the issue yet, but the help is appreciated. I have uninstalled everything and started from scratch. When I reinstall the Presonus drivers I get the ASIO options, but the software still won't function. The manual suggests if that happens to use WDM... which does allow the program to run... but I am discovering that to use the Audiobox as the sole sound device I have to plug speakers directly into it. I don't currently have speakers that will do that. I have a 5.1 system that only plugs into a sound card via mini plug. I can hear my tracks in headphone through the Audiobox, but not in the room. Also, I'm not sure WDM will do what this whole issue is about, and that is to correct for latency.
2014/02/01 03:04:30
Kev999
tindog13
... but I am discovering that to use the Audiobox as the sole sound device I have to plug speakers directly into it. I don't currently have speakers that will do that. I have a 5.1 system that only plugs into a sound card via mini plug. I can hear my tracks in headphone through the Audiobox, but not in the room...



I didn't realise that. I now understand why you are using both Xonar DS and Presonus AudioBox.
2014/02/01 03:26:43
Kev999
tindog13
...to use the Audiobox as the sole sound device I have to plug speakers directly into it. I don't currently have speakers that will do that. I have a 5.1 system that only plugs into a sound card via mini plug. I can hear my tracks in headphone through the Audiobox, but not in the room...



If you could connect the output of the AudioBox to the line in of the Xonar, then there would be no need to switch soundcards within Sonar to route the signal to the speakers, as it would already be routed.  This would allow you to stick with the ASIO drivers.  You would need to appropriate connector to do this, probably twin mono jacks to small stereo jack.
2014/02/01 09:15:38
57Gregy
With my interface, you select the headphone outputs in it's software, not SONAR's. It may be the same with the Presonus.
2014/02/01 11:29:47
tindog13
Interesting Kev. It would have to be Macro USB to Stereo Mini, could be interesting trying to find, but I'll look into that. Still not sure what to do about getting to the ASIO drivers though, every time I have them as an option I get the message (to reiterate: "Unable to open audio record device. Device may not support the current project's audio format or may be in use.") I don't know, that may not be something I can fix, considering they give an option in the manual to use the WDM if the ASIO doesn't work. I still have not gotten a response from Presonus.
2014/02/01 11:32:05
tindog13
...and you will have latency using the WDM/KS whatever or MME drivers...
Thanks spacealf, this is what I was afraid of.
 
2014/02/01 13:00:36
spacealf
I think in music you will see that not many people (maybe none) use surround sound. First you have to have the drivers for it, and usually the drivers with an audio/interface like the AudioBox or about any one of those will be stereo only.
 
If only hooking up stereo speakers then an adaptor out of the audiobox will do.
 
http://www.amazon.com/Hosa-YMP-434-Female-8-Inch-Breakout/dp/B0010D0HO0/ref=sr_1_22?ie=UTF8&qid=1391277272&sr=8-22&keywords=stereo+male+to+mono+female

Female TRS 1/8" to Dual Male TS 1/4"


I would not necessarily buy a Hosa cable but I am sure a local electronics store has the same thing or perhaps even walmart - somewhere in your area.
 
Thus you plug your speakers into the single mini-plug connection just like a headphone because computer speakers usually have mini-plug stereo connections.
 
Maybe not elegant but it works.
 
I used to have surround sound but gave it up because stereo is usually what people use for music, surround may be for movies, but unless you are doing movie music and have much better equipment, the AudioBox will do all the music in stereo.
 
Up to you how you go.
 
The reason not to use Hosa cables is that with some equipment they can get stuck because as you see on the 1/4" Tips of the jacks on the cable it is more triangular than rounded and those tips (which carries the lead while the sleeve is the ground) get stuck in combination connections like on the front of your AudioBox - you do not want to use them there - you may break the connection or have to take the unit apart to get the cable back out. Use rounded cable ends on all equipment. The back of the unit is not a combination connector with the Main Outs so probably safe there.
 
Yes some people have got those Tips on the jack stuck in very expensive equipment using them on the front of a unit with a combination connector and they were not happy at all.
 
2014/02/01 13:12:18
scook
I had a 4+1 system connected to a PC mostly for games and DVD play. When working in SONAR, I used my headphones exclusively. After exporting mixes, I would check them on the PC speakers. It worked pretty well. Now on a different system, there is still a set of speakers attached to the PC playing through whatever chip is in the PC and an AudioBox 44VSL for the SONAR interface with a separate set of monitors attached to it. I prefer not to mix Windows audio with SONAR. FWIW, never had a problem running the internal chip and an audio interface on the same PC.
2014/02/01 13:22:38
spacealf
I think it depends on the drivers for each sound equipment unit.
 
Some sound cards you can use for recording also with adaptors and the right connections into it.
I don't think it sounds as good as a regular make music audio/interface though. (it was a Soundblaster type gaming sound card in the computer at the time but first the Xonar DS would have to be made for it, the Soundblaster Creative Labs card was, for what is called recording music I guess also with its own ASIO drivers (shakes head), but I would not recommend it).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELBdIiPmfSk
 
One song I have to do over because................................for a lot of reasons, better audio/interface now and I was using my synth for the lead guitar part. Plus numerous other reasons....................I will not give.

 
The Early Days!
(may still be that)
 
Maybe you have to use ASIO4All drivers for the presonnus, although I would think that somewhere on their website they have their own drivers for the AudioBox (so latency is accounted for).
?? That I do not know.
 
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