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  • Copying midi between tracks
2014/02/03 19:24:16
wisebaxter442
Hi there, say I've recorded all of my drums in one track but I want to split them all up so I can mix them separately. Is there an easy way to do this? I've tried cloning the track but that just copies all mini events as opposed to the ones I've selected (i.e snare).  I've tried just a simple copy and paste into a new track but that seems to make the new track related to the first so I can't solo separately etc. I don't want to have to record each drum sound separately if I can help it. Thanks
2014/02/03 19:31:11
tomixornot
You didn't mention what drums, if it's Session Drummer or similar soft synth drums, this might help
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-X-fIfLFtvM
 
 
 
2014/02/03 19:40:22
wisebaxter442
Sorry, I'm using addictive drums :) Gonna check out that link, looks like it might have the answers, ta
2014/02/03 19:58:09
Cactus Music
Your cloning the track is how I do it. The only step you missed was to open each clone in turn and delete all but the one part you'll keep per track. 
Clicking on the keyboard will highlight all the notes of each part and then delete. 
Dragging the pointer down the keyboard from the top holding the mouse and stop before you get to the kick drum as example of how quick it can be. 
Then rename each new track with what you left behind. 
I don't break it in to each part, just groups, Kick/Snare/Hats and Cymb and Toms. 
2014/02/03 20:27:03
brundlefly
Process > Run CAL > Split Note to Tracks. This will split them out for you. But you might want to look into just using lanes for different parts. And note that mixing drums is generally more about having separate audio outs from the drum synth than having separate MIDI tracks driving it.
 
 
 
 
2014/02/03 20:53:56
wisebaxter442
Cactus - thanks, I'll have another go at this. I was finding that when I cloned a track and clicked on solo for example, it would solo the original track too. I assumed they'd stayed related somehow, but I will try again.
 
Brundlefly - I'm in the middle of figuring out how to route the different tracks in AD to their own, individual tracks. Aside from being able to record all of the drum tracks separately with this approach, is there any other benefit, i.e mixing benefits etc?
2014/02/03 21:03:39
tomixornot
Mixing drums with separate audio ? :- when I first started out.. no benefit for me (how wrong!)
 
But after learning more about mixing, you really want to have separate drums audio tracks, so you can apply different effects, eq, etc, as well as to automate it if necessary.
2014/02/03 21:32:40
wisebaxter442
Thanks Tomix. But I'm still confused as to how being able to record all of the drum tracks separately with this approach is different to just cloning one track over and over again and then removing the midi you don't need for each track. Not that I really want to do it this way. Was just wondering if both approaches achieved the same result. Ta
2014/02/03 21:44:45
tomixornot
The drums soft synth must support multi audio outputs in order to do this. While I don't use AD, I think it's able to do that.
 
If I read correctly, you already have the midi data in a single track, and only wish to mix the audio separately.
 
If the AD supports multi out, all you have to do is to insert the AD soft synth as Midi Source and All Synth Audio Outputs Stereo, and further tweak which drum goes to which track. And copy your midi clip to the newly inserted (single) AD midi track - this way you don't have to further extract the midi clip itself.
2014/02/03 21:45:10
brundlefly
It's not about recording, it's about mixing on playback. If you plan to use the synth's mixer, you don't really need separate audio outputs, but if you want to be able to fine tune individual drum sounds using SONAR's EQ, and FX (e.g. delays, transient shaping, compression) and maybe volume automation, then you need separate audio tracks hosting each of the outputs.
 
 
 
 
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