This is happening alot. I'll compose a guide track, maybe 3 or 4 instances of Kontakt with for example, The Giant, Spitfire solo strings and Cinebrass....The session goes well.... All records beautifully....
 
I close down Sonar and come back hours later and open the project to find all the articulation has gone bonkers and the automation is wrong thus rendering the sketch pretty useless as the vibe has completely gone (therefore some kind of Midi lost in translation bobbins)
 
I know Sonar has issues with Guitar Rig and freezing synths and restoring back to presets....

Is there something that needs to be addressed between NI and Cakewalk here?

I totally rely on "that human touch" in controlling my sound libraries in Kontakt and Sonar.....

Thoughts?

Hasn't happened to me yet but I don't use Spitfire or Cinebrass, perhaps that makes a difference. Can you give specific steps to reproduce or is it one of those voodoo "now that everyone's looking it does work" issues?

Also I am finding alot that volume resets to zero in Kontakt despite numerous attempts at recording automation on that track.

Nothing in event viewer, just RESET TO ZERO and a big sigh and alot of workarounds from me.
 
I am sure NI and Sonar should work better together, long standing user here and to be honest its never really been completely right (excuse the pun)... I havent been able to test this on PT as I dont compose there (nor do I want to) but my PT friends on Macs dont seem to have this problem.

Sanderxpander
Hasn't happened to me yet but I don't use Spitfire or Cinebrass, perhaps that makes a difference. Can you give specific steps to reproduce or is it one of those voodoo "now that everyone's looking it does work" issues?

Its hard to reproduce really....

Lets say I record a violin part in Spitfire Solo via Kontakt 5, in the session the keyswitches respond and record fine, any automation I record is fine.....I close the session, reopen it and its all gone, so basically I lose any kind of human shaping in the part and get very harsh transitional strings.....The thing thats puzzling me is there is nothing in event viewer in Sonar...It seems that somehow Sonar and Kontakt refuse to play ball somehow in recalling key human touches via keyswitches, volume controls, modulation wheel etc etc...Let me stress, If I record automation in Sonar its fine (which doesnt actually help), it just seems that Kontakt and Sonar arent playing ball properly....

I did bring up a kind of issue like this with Guitar Rig 5 and freezing and unfreezing and losing presets.... with my problem seeking brain I am kinda of assuming that all these issues are related.

So in essence, Sonar is fine at recording its own in house automation, but when relating to NI Kontakt 5 and *some* instruments, it certainly does not. Now, as my DAW I expect it to, and NI, as my instrument handler I expect it to do the bloody same! Otherwise whats the point in composing with these tools?

Again, today, when sound designing I was trying to automate a volume on a track from a Kontakt instrument and no matter what every time I hit space to play it resets everything unless the automation is recorded on Sonar itself rather than the plug in.

Something is getting lost in translation it seems.

I will play around with this tonight and post back my results.  
 
Can't do it now, as I am shooting the beejeebies out of folks right now in Call of Doody: Black Ops 2.  :)
 
Bob Bone

You close the session. Do you save it first?

John
You close the session. Do you save it first?

Of course John, I save every three changes (no auto save either - obvious reasons)

I dont get this with anything else of NI other than SOME libraries in Kontakt and certainly in Guitar Rig with resetting volume. (Reaktor fine for example)...and yes, I have legit licenses before anyone asks 

robert_e_bone
I will play around with this tonight and post back my results.  
 
Can't do it now, as I am shooting the beejeebies out of folks right now in Call of Doody: Black Ops 2.  :)
 
Bob Bone

Spitfire strings solo "Solo Viola legato NV_V BPD v1_1" patch is my first port of call, but volume automation on Gtr rig 5 within the plug in doesnt work, Cinebrass Pro also resets itself...actually also Symphobia modulation doesnt work as it should.

I use KONTAKT a lot with multiple instances as well and can't say that I have ever experienced issues as you have outlined.  The ZERO'ed data however, has been caused by a MIDI setting preferences that ZERO controller data at project start (or something like that) that I use to make sure all MODULATION and other settings get reset at the start of a song... perhaps this is ZEROing out the VOLUME or EXP cc's you may be using to control the output gain of KONTAKT tracks?
 
No idea on the rest of your trials but sounds real ugly to me.
 
Jim

Markyzo I see Sonar Producer X1d, X2a, X3c 64 bit in your footer so just wanted to check if you were running X3D (and done the thing that should not be mentioned ever).
 
Cheers..