"Cactus," Alex, and
Craig - You need to know how much I appreciate your assistance. I'll file an update report in case there's anything telling in it - but, jumping to the bottom line - there's still no change. 8.5 won't run.
Cactus - This computer isn't really a DAW station. It's my Everything computer. I have hundreds of programs. I have a document reminding me of all their locations and routines, but when I first set this machine up about 3 years ago now, it was a gigantic project. Unfortunately, the last system image I did is far too out of date for me to rely on. So - just don't want to face an entire re-do.
Alex - I downloaded and reinstalled C++ 2008, using your links. Yesterday I thought I'd updated all of them, but to be sure, ran these again. They don't really completely reinstall, they repair. So I can see when looking at the list, that the install dates are still from 2011 and 2012.
I Did discover that I didn't have C++ 2012 on the machine at all - Installed those today. No change - 8.5 still not working.
After doing more of these updates and installs of C++, I uninstalled 8.5 yet again to do a fresh install - No change. AND - something odd, the 64 bit version CAN'T BE UNINSTALLED now - it's missing the uninstall file "unins000.dat."
Maybe I should uninstall and reinstall each CC++? Scared I could screw things up more.
I ran sfc /scannow and it completed successfully with the message
"Windows Resource Protection did not find any integrity violations." So, that confirms that the system files being used are OK.
NOTE: The MIDI activity icon, as I reported yesterday, stays on after attempting to run Sonar - That's new behavior. I can't see anything in Task Manager with anything that's using MIDI.
When I try running Sonar again after these various fix attempts, I usually need to use the Task Manager to close the Process.
Cactus, I saw that thread yeseterday about the X3 Demo installation updating various Cakewalk plugins. Scared me - but - there ya go.
Craig - When I've done anything, uninstalling, reinstalling etc - I've always turned Avast off, and run things as Admin. I guess I do need to get on the phone and see if a Support person can talk me through a fix. I don't have much faith now of anything helping, but - guess I should give that a try.
Meanwhile, looks like I'll be working in X1. Oh joy. If I can't stand it, then I'll try Sonar 8. There's no change with any of the old versions, they're all still working fine.
Enough of trying to fix this for now - Have projects to finish!
THANK YOU ALL - If there's anything in this update post that gives any of you an idea, natch I'd like to hear it.
Randy