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  • [Solved] Sonar x3c Crashing with x2a Projects and odd behavior (p.2)
2013/11/28 22:00:20
Sir Les
I have no Idea what IIS is..nor have I done any server indulgence on this system...I tried to turn off a lot of Networing and internet services, and some may call for a service that is not enabled, to cause other warnings. ... and it seemed like things started crashing as I went forward with updates more so x2 to x3c...So I went in and turned some things back on...(as assistance was not forthcoming) but slowly I got some tips....and am still updating win 7 as of today a net frame work 4.5 I think...but it is getting long in the tooth now, over writing code and such...and old drivers riped out, and new things put in...makes a mess of the os & reg....
 
But I hear yah AlexS...a total wipe out may be the best bet, as I have run cc cleaner scan, and found so much reg corruption and lost links,... and data dumps that have happened, trying to get things working, it may be too deep to undo the poo poo.
 
So more hair loss has been averted by using the blow torch before hand ...and mead.
 
I tried to run Vegas, it should have been made Admin ready when installed...But it won't even load up now today, ...so something went haywire with something linking them software apps perhaps..like rewire, or bitbridge, which may be corrupted, as I have seen messages about it with a data dump. or two.
No partitions on my ssd c: Drive...and it is only half full....
 
So I will wait for Robert to chime in...and then I am off to format C...and start by updating windows to the hilt first...Then drivers to the most updated= already downloaded...and we will see what installing one by one does...Cause this is too much to bare anymore, I have given it my best shot....on this system....Now I need help, cause what I thought was helping stop cpu spikes, clicks and pops, and dropouts , and crashes....is partly OS corruption.
 
As this was only a test run and build...I have no worries of formating c, and have everything safe and sound on cd or dvd/or downloadable only when made available ....makes it safer.
 
Thanks Again!
 
Sir Les
2013/11/28 22:28:59
robert_e_bone
Sir Les
Well let see, it all started back when I was...installing the os...as I am the admin of that process, and have not made any other user to the system...I am the admin...and so I have all the rights I would imagine...a admin gets, as being the only one who uses this system.
 
My admin rights should default to the only user being Sir Les....no login, no networks..etc.
 
I may have turned this feature off?....I'll go check after a few words with you.
 
Acid Pro 7 is a 32 bit software...it runs, but has always had a issue on this system.
And others...So I never really expect much more from it...and is why I am seeking a 64bit app to do with the OS...I also Have Propeller head stuff installed and I may move to that soon.
 
Also have Protools 11 being tested on another system...So that one will take tips and tricks from this if need be.
 
So if it is admin related...I may just have to turn on a service?...or.... do I have to right click the Icon and set to run as admin?....or both?...and in the right order might be rewarding....
 
I do not like to log in to my machines....and so I have been very careful not to activate that process....way to many passwords to recount...wait, I have another bottle left....
 
Ok...Lead me to bliss oh Great one.
 
Admin rights....check...what do I do for that?...I believe I right clicked the Icon and set it up on installation...but I may be wrong....As it was a rush to see what was new and improved suggestion to fix my other issues..
 
So is that right?


Lots of folks get confused about Admin accounts versus running as administrator.  These are 2 different things.
 
It is recommended that you EXPLICITLY launch the Sonar installer to Run As Administrator, which can be done by either right-clicking on the installer and clicking on Run As Administrator, or you can right-click on the installer, then click on Properties, then Advanced, then check the box to permanently have the installer set to Run As Administrator (don't forget to apply and OK your way back out of that once you set it).
 
Either method works, but just BEING an administrative user does NOT get the job done for adequate elevation of privileges/permissions.
 
I also choose to always have Sonar itself Run As Administrator every time it runs, and I never have any access violations such as the ones you have been having.
 
I DO believe at this point that a complete wiping out of Windows and installing it again would be the way to go.  This would give you a clean slate, rather than trying to muddle through undoing whatever damage has been caused to currently installed programs and settings.
 
For whatever the worth, I also at this point avoid making any of the system 'tweaks', such as the ones listed at the Black Viper site.  I think those were NEEDED for OS levels prior to Windows 7, but I just don't have any issues these days where I would think to go through any of that tweaking.
 
I instead started with a clean OS install, then got all maintenance applied, then took a full backup and image backup, then began installing applications, etc...
 
I run Windows 8 now, but even when I ran Win 7, I kept maintenance up to date, AND kept UAC on, AND run installs of anything with Run As Administrator, AND have programs such as Sonar also set to Run As Administrator.  With this setup, and very limited use of 32-bit plugins in x64 Sonar, I just never have crashes or failures or even corruption.
 
I hope that helps guide you, please post as you decide how you choose to proceed, I will be available most of the day Friday, and again over the weekend, to help as needed - and possible.
 
Bob Bone
 
2013/11/29 02:05:45
Sir Les
Well here I am all brand new win 7 64bit installed, and from what I Believe is upto date completely...nothing other than codemeter, and Ilok latest installed...and of course some drivers for the asus usb and usb 3 was all I had to do....I think windows 7 put the driver for ATI aswell, ...should I install the full package from ATI?
 
And as all is well in device manager with windows putting in all the rest...should I be concerned?
 
 
Now I did not just decide to use Black vipers tips and tricks...this came about with the use of Protools 9.3 and the focusrite Pro 40 audio device...and sony software crashing all the time.....Avid ask alot of their users to tweak the os....I went a bit to extremes to find the culprit....
And after a reinstall of win 7 on the ssd, I started having the same things happen...So I bought Sonar x1, and I had issues with that....and all the other ones you saw in my above errors.
 
Not that many if you see what has been going on since win 95 till now...but enough dumps to say hay that's enough.
 
Now with this system as it is...and no win 7 update failures at all...I would say it is a clean install of win 7 64 bit.
 I will make some tweaks...wink...
 
Cause I hate screen savers, sleep mode, monitor sleep, and I must set usb to be always on, not sure about idol mode...any idea on that for usb Power management?
Also to never turn off usb in the control panel.
 
And the one AlexS doesn't want me to write....lol.
 
then there will be...testing again....and In this state...it will not work very well....cause I been here before....
So thanks for chimming in....a bit late, But now I have a lot to do...and I want to do it right....So I will be leaving the internet on...which will cause problems....but the link is important now to get this working, with help.
 
 
Thanks and cheers...
 
2013/11/29 02:15:49
Sir Les
oh my..here lookie see....
error in event viewer with nothing installed...
 
Session "ReadyBoot" stopped due to the following error: 0xC0000188
 
you getting my drift?...circles...big circles...
 
ah...gotta go to the store...no more unopened bottles....
 
Sir Les
2013/11/29 02:41:30
Sir Les
windows explorer 11.x does not like this Cakewalk forum for some reason..it does not let me post the posts.....So now I am using Chrome...another thing I do not need on my system....oh well...for now it will have to do the duty.
 
 
2013/11/29 03:13:38
Splat
Without gloating all this works for me, my saffire pro 40, my copy of IE11. If you never installed internet information web server in the past then this is very worrying indeed, its the sort of thing a 'malicious process' would do so people could use your PC as an upload/download centre  ;) I'm not saying anything other than a little three letter prompt may have helped you stop this  ;)
http://msdn.microsoft.com...ms181052(v=vs.80).aspx
 
If its still running it will take as much resource as your DAW, I'd be surprised if you can record anything.
Wipe and start again methinks, too much weird **** going on, do a full virus scan whilst you are at it. Avoid utils that want to disable your security ;)
Readyboot not a real issue, your PC will just take a little longer starting. Fairly common error.
 
2013/11/29 03:18:15
Splat
oh and you just need the driver with ati not the control panel.
2013/11/29 03:45:11
Sir Les
The thing is AlexS...That there should not be any errors yet....that worries me, no matter how common you say it is.
I may have turned on internet service  ISS...as I was looking to fix problems connecting to the net, once the tweaks and everything were done, as it would take forever to connect, and was very buggy due to services being disabled......the Black viper tweaks I use are not the ones You saw on the web site...
I have used his tweaks in XP mostly...but when things went haywire in win 7 I had the old list for audio setups...and went through that ...mostly....and a few others of my own...which seemed to work.
 
You think my system had a virus?...Not possible...I ran the essential security and updated it, did a scan before I decided to wipe out the OS....NO VIRUS FOUND>And did a cclean scan...I tried to run the registry fix but they want money...So I gave up...and wiped her out.
 
Also I found a windows Malware app running...that cannot be turned off in services on the old install.....So I have to recheck that one...on this new install...and make sure no virus or security apps or services are running once we see how things work with no tweaks to them Services...and my A&L interface....and then when she is ready to be disconnected from the net for x time...all that stuff  virus/malware gets turned off.
 
 
 
check.... just the drivers for ATI were installed by window's updater....thanks
 
Installed Adobe x1, quicktime....and I uninstalled internet 11...cause it spins in circles....and you know how I hate that....need more bottles to counter the spinning circle when it cannot find a url of known working & proper states of being....
 
 Just sayin.... things with windows...have issues on their own...never mind the third party software end.
 
Not yet ready to take the install Audio software yet....cause once I put the A&L driver in...things go odd with the internet...
 
Thanks AlexS..
2013/11/29 10:59:52
lawp
wrt ie11, make sure you add this site to the compatibility mode list
2013/11/29 13:29:24
robert_e_bone
The ReadyBoot error you listed above is not causing any trouble.
 
Here is the Microsoft reference doc on that error:
 
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2001347
 
Bob Bone
 
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