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2012/08/13 10:30:39
wst3
If that price does not scare you I think you can't go wrong. It is a great sounding headphone amplifier! Truthfully I thought it was more than $400, but I knew it wasn't 4 figures - probably should have mentioned that<G>!

In a rare bit of serendipity, I'm having dinner with one of the Rane folks tomorrow night. We used a bunch of their gear in a large project, and they want to see how well it worked. This is part of the gig I really enjoy - when we build a large system around specific products, and it works, it is fun to share that with the manufacturer.
2012/08/13 10:32:31
The Maillard Reaction

"1) the impedance ranged from less than 30 ohms to over 600 ohms - that's a wide range, and it is nearly impossible to design an output stage that doesn't care about that.
2) the sensitivity of the headphones was all over the map - even after you address the fact that each manufacturer uses a slightly different means to specify sensitivity<G>!"



I have a mess of 60ohm Sonys that are fairly sensitive and I have a few old AKGs at 600ohm that are in-sensitive.

The confusion that caused me, back in the "day", inspired me to learn a few things... like, you can't use 600ohm in-sensitive headphones out in the field on marginally equipped battery powered gear. Stuff like that.

:-)

best regards,
mike



2012/08/13 10:37:07
wst3
Hi Mike,
 
Not sure if you meant that as a joke or not, but I've used power amplifiers to drive headphone distributon in studios for years. It is common practice, although you do have to be mindful of the widely varying load. I never used a Haffler for that, but I used a lot of Crown D-60s and D-75s along the way.
 
These days I use the Rane because it sounds better - at least to my ears - and it behaves better. It also lets you control the level per headset, which can be really handy.
 
The current cool thing - in larger studios moreso than home studos - is the "more me" thing where you feed a number of channels or subs to a distribution box that feeds a bunch of personal mixers. Then each musician can create their own mix.
 
I used to do something similar, I'd route the tape buss outputs to a matrix, and feed them to the individual inputs on the headphone amplifier. I could create unique sub-mixes for each channel of the headphone amplifier that way. Not as easy (for me) as the Aviom or similar personal monitor mixers, but it was way better than the one or two cue mixes most consoles provided.
 
Take care,
 
Bill
mike_mccue


One of these for each person will settle the matter. 

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... all you need is a TRS to pigtails adapter.


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2012/08/13 10:43:39
bapu
wst3


If that price does not scare you I think you can't go wrong. It is a great sounding headphone amplifier! Truthfully I thought it was more than $400, but I knew it wasn't 4 figures - probably should have mentioned that<G>!

In a rare bit of serendipity, I'm having dinner with one of the Rane folks tomorrow night. We used a bunch of their gear in a large project, and they want to see how well it worked. This is part of the gig I really enjoy - when we build a large system around specific products, and it works, it is fun to share that with the manufacturer.

Mebee you can ask them to send me an "eval" HC6 unit?
2012/08/13 10:48:09
The Maillard Reaction

Hi Bill,
 It was part joke / part real life.


 I use headphones for work so often that I rarely use them for enjoyment, but I do have several hi-fi_headphone-nut friends and have watched them experiemnet with both big and small amps for the purpose.

 I have a few Haflers here... so that's why I chose that as a photo example to illustrate the idea.

 all the best,
mike
2012/08/13 11:49:21
wst3
bapu
Mebee you can ask them to send me an "eval" HC6 unit?


You have no idea how much I wish it worked that way!!! Now that would be a perq that would make up for a lot of the nonsense...
2012/08/13 21:48:25
bapu
wst3


bapu
Mebee you can ask them to send me an "eval" HC6 unit?


You have no idea how much I wish it worked that way!!! Now that would be a perq that would make up for a lot of the nonsense...

You're just not pushing hard enough....... for me.
2012/08/14 12:26:45
bapu
Just picked up a used HC6 from Guitar Center (online) for $240 (including tax, 1 year coverage & shipping).
2012/08/14 14:39:18
The Maillard Reaction
... should a gone for the haflers.






A rack of six can heat half a house.
2012/08/14 14:40:09
bapu
mike_mccue


... should a gone for the haflers.






A rack of six can heat half a house.

Just what I need in my already greenhouse effect studio....
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