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  • The science of sample rates (p.22)
2014/01/24 21:14:24
John T
John
You know Goddard its time to give it a rest. I'm glad you have such a analytical mind and see so many faults in someone else's work but at some point its just obsessive and not all that informative.  


Yeah, as I said way back on page 2 or something, I can't see how any of this bluster is adding to general comprehension of the topic.
 
I think you can boil down Goddard's objection to the fact that there's no proof of higher sample rates being harmful. As far as I can tell, he has nothing else, apart from this - yes - irrelevant guff about realtek converters and conversations on newsgroups in the late 90s.

The lack of proof for Lavry's claim is a reasonable enough point, but the words-to-meaning ratio, and the "information sharing"-to-"dick swinging" ratio in the thread overall is through the floor and heading for the earth's core.
 
 
2014/01/24 21:14:33
Danny Danzi
Vab
Goddard do you actually think anybody here is going to bother to read posts that long? No one has an attention span on the internet.



Hey, ya never know who may be reading. I type long novels all the time and know of 5 people that always read my posts. LOL! :) That's ok though, I'm happy to have 5 friends on here. :)
 
Incidentally, I happened to have read this whole thread...some interesting stuff from quite a few people. Long reads are killer when they are done right. :)
 
-Danny
2014/01/24 21:16:38
John T
Yeah, with Danny on that. Quite like a long and detailed read, myself. Object to a wilfully obscurant waffle, but that's a slightly different point. In fairness, though, I suspect Vab was making a joke there.
2014/01/24 21:19:39
Danny Danzi
John T
In fairness, though, I suspect Vab was making a joke there.



Yeah I felt he was too...but I saw "posts that long" and had to chime in due to my track record. :)
 
-Danny
2014/01/24 22:11:17
robert_e_bone
Alright, sooooooooooooo, huh?
 
What does ANY of the last 7.5 pages of this matter?
 
NONE of it means anything beyond the range of human hearing, and if one takes a moment to spin through the radio dial to what's current, fidelity has LONG gone by the wayside, and it's all way too much bass with crappy gangstas with their choppas in da closet. and Kanye liking fish sticks.  :)
 
The above is a nonsensical brain purge, caused by this thread, and not to be taken as anything to be taken.
 
I am willing to bet that NOBODY thus far in this thread has changed their opinion ONE IOTA from wherever it was prior to joining in this thread.  Sooooooooooo, what's the point at this point?
 
I choose to use 48 K and 24-bit depth, and that's that.
 
I REFUSE to hook the Large Hadron Collider into my rig, just to see if sampled fish farts are mathematically able to approach the speed of light during my cover of Louie Louie.
 
A sampled fish fart is a sampled fish fart, no matter how deep the ocean.
 
Bob Bone
2014/01/24 22:39:46
Goddard
Don't believe I'd ever advocated any particular sample rate as being superior, only took issue with scaremongering against 192k which has washed down from the high end pro and mastering market where it was originally directed and been picked up and perpetuated by bloggers and forumites.
 
Anyway, audio production and distribution has been democratized, death to the industrial studio complex! And everyone has different gear and rooms and ears and needs and budgets and is free to choose whatever sounds and suits them best, no matter what anyone else might say.
 
Better to make an informed decision than an uninformed, or worse, misinformed, one is all...
2014/01/24 22:49:53
mmorgan
Danny Danzi
 
Yeah I felt he was too...but I saw "posts that long" and had to chime in due to my track record. :)
 
-Danny




I've heard some of your tracks, and, for the record: They are really quite nice. As are your novellas. 
 
Regards,
2014/01/24 22:57:42
Vab
This entire thread is funneh.

But for one I'm definitely not reading such massive posts.

I remember the studio technician complaining when I tried working with higher than CD standard depth and bit rates at uni, with him telling me 'theres no point in using higher rates when everything needs to be compressed to CD quality afterwards'.

Seriously, do people even still buy CDs? MP3 downloads is what's more popular today.
2014/01/24 23:57:12
robert_e_bone
I thought I would take a stab at putting this thread into a bit of humorous perspective.  It had gotten to a place where I don't think anyone really wanted to get to.
 
I think that the strength of this forum is best realized when we strive to constructively serve each other, and when we lose sight of that, we lose a lot - and it is easy to do.
 
I am at peace with the settings I have chosen for myself, 24-bit at 48 k, and hope others find peace with it all for their systems, as well, with whatever settings they choose for themselves, for whatever reasons make sense to them.
 
Bob Bone
 
2014/01/25 00:40:14
Vab
Why not do it proper hardcore and make music using cassette recorders?

All this sonar, ponar ... What good is it? The beetles never needed this stuff, why do we?

Or just go sing karaoke at some random pub, audition for X factor and become rich and famous like the Cheeky Girls, or just play back a CD of dancey music in a club and be a talented modern DJ like Paris Hilton!

You know you want to grow up to be a fairy princess in a pink tutu like Britney Spears. Pure magical amazement!

What pills did I take this morning ... Erm, the wrong ones it seems.
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