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  • CTRL-A does not 'SELECT ALL' in project X3 - CWBRN-23377 (p.2)
2014/01/17 10:54:02
Guitarmech111
I also usually double click a track or CTRL-A to select all tracks and clips when working on clips for bounce and the track pane is active.This time I had to tweak one of the busses for bounce to track and got an error telling me there was nothing selected. Kind of irritating when I hit CTRL-A to select all and expected that to work since it used to.

I have not really heard any argument to keep this behavior yet.
2014/01/17 12:35:25
brundlefly
I've been letting this thread take its course without further input because it really doesn't seem worth the attention being lavished on it. But I have to say it seems a little odd that anyone should be so inconvenienced by a change in "workflow" that is apparently so rarely used that it wasn't noticed during the first two years after the change. 
 
One "argument" for keeping the current functionality:
 
Being able to select all buses without selecting tracks allows you to use quick-grouping to do things like reset all panning to center, insert a send on all buses to (maybe after deselecting Master) to another hardware output, etc.
 
I have no doubt there are users out there that are taking advantage of the ability to select all buses or all tracks separately, and would be taken aback if it changed. And I wouldn't be surprised to find there are more in that boat than there are users who want to go back to pre-X1 functionality - if they care at all.
2014/01/17 12:53:40
Guitarmech111
just because I post something does not mean I am 'so inconvenienced'.
 
I am not above changing my workflow. I have to with the 'X' series.

I would just like to understand why this is a good thing for some. If you fault me for that, oh well. I am just discussing it. sorry...
2014/01/17 14:32:32
Anderton
Guitarmech111
just because I post something does not mean I am 'so inconvenienced'.
 
I am not above changing my workflow. I have to with the 'X' series.

I would just like to understand why this is a good thing for some. If you fault me for that, oh well. I am just discussing it. sorry...




I think what irks some people is you often use thread titles that automatically assume something is a bug without investigating why the program responds the way it does. If a program works as intended but simply doesn't follow a particular workflow you like, it is not a bug and does not need a bug report filed. It is a feature request.
2014/01/17 14:34:11
brundlefly
My characterization might have been a little exaggerated. Sorry for that. It just seems this is one of those cases where shrugging your shoulders and adapting to the new world order would be a lot less painful than pursuing a change that isn't likely to happen any time soon if ever. If the Bakers come back and say it's unintended AND actually fix it any time in the next 2 years, I'll eat my hat.
 
When I encounter something this minor that's pretty clearly WAD, and just different than it used to be, I just adapt to it on the spot and move on, even if it's not my preference. Unless it's something that's going to cost me significant time and effort to continue working around, I'm not going to waste my and the Bakers time looking at it. There are so many bigger fish to fry...
 
And, yes, I see the irony in my continuing contributions to this thread. 
 
Just my $.02. No harm, no foul, I hope.
 
Cheers,
The 'Fly
2014/01/17 14:57:29
Guitarmech111
@Dave, np, as long as we can be civil about it. :-D

@Craig, Then let the bakers feedback to me and I will report their findings. If it will be a feature request, so be it. At least that will get me an official answer and I will move on.
2014/01/17 19:19:53
icontakt
brundlefly
 
One "argument" for keeping the current functionality:
 
Being able to select all buses without selecting tracks allows you to use quick-grouping to do things like reset all panning to center, insert a send on all buses to (maybe after deselecting Master) to another hardware output, etc.
 

 
This is possible even without selecting the buses, btw.


2014/01/17 19:58:51
brundlefly
Oops. Forgot that selecting none works like all for quick-grouping. Okay, scratch that. 
2014/01/17 20:10:25
John T
Yeah, for what it's worth, I think it's a weird design, with no immediately obvious particular uses. Trips me up all the time, as often the last thing I do before an export is adjust master bus fades. Then I go to Select All ready for exporting, and I select the buses, because that's where the focus is.
 
Like Brundlefly, I don't let it ruin my day or anything. Still, I don't really understand why it is how it is.
2014/01/25 17:06:37
Guitarmech111
Thinking more about this while I am working with some track bouncing, selecting the TRACK\* option in the dropdown should set focus on the tracks since that is what is being processed or desired to be processed. The timeline is already set by the CTRL-A if the buss pane was the prior focus. Just thinking out loud here...
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