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  • Sessional Drummer loops are deficient (to say it nicely)
2014/01/05 03:29:06
vladasyn
No offence to anybody who uses them. I gave this plug-in a chance over and over again. It was not working after X3 update- we fixed it with your help. Now that I listened it again... The midi loop. What kind of 3-legged mule programmed or played them? Steven Slate and Jerry Lyons, your loops are s.x! All I needed was to find few simple fills. These were paid expansions I bought. Out of only near 20 fills offered for my money I found zero. You, guys, go and listen this selection- what in the world do you use it for? I was actually looking for the straight dance- oriented snare fill crescendo. Not available. Ok- simple rock&roll Toms fill, "Tom tom tom tom Bam"- not available. How do you work with it? How can anybody make anything meaningful with it? And this is after I had my entire drum track already programmed- all I needed- some fills. Why do you program jerky fill- there is no way to even tell where to paste it on a track, where the fill begins and where it ends. Was not looking for anything complicated- was looking for 1 usable fill- nope. I hope Addictive drums at least some what better- this is frustrating! Why are they sale us bad product is above my understanding. Some time ago they offered 101 something samples for free as a part of Cakewalk content club. What a waste of time! Was not even one useful sample. If you are 12 years old and you have nothing, may be you can use it for something, but when you trying to make serious production- it is a junk. My 9 years old child can program better drum fill than what they sale for money. We all should be offended! Here is a trick, Cakewalk: buy electronic drum set, connect it to the midi recorder and hire professional drummer. It just that simple. 2 hours session would give you hundreds of drum loops. Somebody needs to start taking it seriously.   
2014/01/05 03:58:14
Vab
Lots of people here say that Addictive Drums is much better, and the full version is included with X3 producer, so I think it would be more worthwhile to upgrade to that rather than buying more presets for session drummer 3.
2014/01/05 04:10:04
karhide
If you just need simple fills you could just program them yourself instead of spending hours browsing through a bunch of pre made midi loops not designed for dance music.
2014/01/05 06:31:58
Bristol_Jonesey
karhide
If you just need simple fills you could just program them yourself instead of spending hours browsing through a bunch of pre made midi loops not designed for dance music.


+1
 
If I can't find a loop i want after 5 minutes I'll go and roll my own.
Life's too short
2014/01/05 06:37:08
Sanderxpander
Especially a straight up dance snare crescendo. Can't imagine why I would ever waste time browsing a fill library for that.
2014/01/05 08:03:48
mettelus

Bristol_Jonesey
If I can't find a loop i want after 5 minutes I'll go and roll my own.
Life's too short

+1000! Using pre-made sounds/fills/FX settings can sometimes get you close, but rarely on the money. First is the hurdle of finding them, and even then they are not "quite right," so I anticipate some level of editing each and every time. From the aspect of time alone, this has become the path of choice.
2014/01/05 11:50:31
Anderton
The loops that come with drum modules are good "placeholders" so you can have something more inspiring than a metronome click. But I never expect any of them to make the "final cut," they weren't made with me in mind.
2014/01/05 11:56:06
Splat
Play your own!!! Where is your "art"?
2014/01/05 11:57:30
dubdisciple
If you expect any premade midi loop to be instantly exactly what your song needed,you may want to rethink your expectations.
2014/01/05 13:28:46
Anderton
dubdisciple
If you expect any premade midi loop to be instantly exactly what your song needed,you may want to rethink your expectations.



Agreed! Although I do need to add that sometimes, a commercially available loop can be cool because it does not meet your expectations. Every now and then I insert something that takes a song in another direction I hadn't anticipated, but which worked nonetheless.
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