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2014/01/19 07:22:59
gigasonar
Hi,
I can possibly get TC Powercore Element for 50 euros?
No or Yes?
I think it will work with Win 7 64bit but
how about Sonar X3?
Is anybody still using it?
Maybe better forget it? 
2014/01/19 12:13:12
CJaysMusic
If someone is selling it for that price, then Yes, you can get it for 50 euros.
 
It took me 10 seconds to go to the TC website and it says the drivers supports 64bit and Windows 7
 
So of course it would work in Sonar as it supports all host that support VST will work, just like the website says.
 
 
2014/01/19 12:49:50
Anderton
TC no longer supports it and AFAIK there will be no more updates. Also FireWire is on the way out. What plug-ins does it come with? And what does it provide that Sonar's existing set of plug-ins don't provide?
2014/01/19 13:54:06
bapu
CJaysMusic
just like the website says.

Some websites have been known to NOT tell the entire truth.
2014/01/19 15:40:29
JonD
Anderton
.... Also FireWire is on the way out.......




Been hearing this for years, and guess what?  The last two interfaces I bought (in 2013) are FW-based.
 
Of course, I'm strictly using desktop PCs with PCIe FW cards (I can see why it might be a concern for laptops).
 
But as long as the PCIe slot standard doesn't go away, I don't see my FW devices becoming obsolete anytime soon.
2014/01/21 10:17:21
gigasonar
Anderton
TC no longer supports it and AFAIK there will be no more updates. Also FireWire is on the way out. What plug-ins does it come with? And what does it provide that Sonar's existing set of plug-ins don't provide?




That's a good question. Nothing really!
I'm not really sure I need it.
 
There is quiet nice collection of nine plugins
included in elements:
24/7 C, Chorus/Delay,Classicverb, EQ Sat Custom,
Megareverb, Powercore 01 Mono Synth, Powercore CL,
Tubifex, Voicestrip
http://www.tcelectronic.com/powercore-element/
 

But Powercore is very old one and I doubt anyone
here still using it!
 
2014/01/21 22:33:16
Anderton
JonD
Anderton
.... Also FireWire is on the way out.......




Been hearing this for years, and guess what?  The last two interfaces I bought (in 2013) are FW-based.
 
Of course, I'm strictly using desktop PCs with PCIe FW cards (I can see why it might be a concern for laptops).
 
But as long as the PCIe slot standard doesn't go away, I don't see my FW devices becoming obsolete anytime soon.




Not being obsolete - true, FireWire devices will (should) continue to work for a long time. Thunderbolt offers PCIe card adapters, although UA's recent announcement of which PCIe cards will and will not work with Thunderbolt and adapters for the new Mac Pro are not encouraging, and the number of PCs with Thunderbolt ports is not encouraging either...there's also the question of how many slots will be in a motherboard. If you use only one PCIe device, you're probably okay but if you have other PCIe devices you want to run, there may or may not be the capacity.
 
In terms of being on the way out, FireWire turns 30 this year. That's pretty old for a standard, and you're right about laptops tending to leave out FireWire these days; in terms of sales, USB interfaces are waaaay ahead of FireWire. And cards aren't forever - consider NuBus and ISA.
 
Personally, I prefer card-based audio interfaces because they don't have to go through the layers of FireWire or USB. But they're getting really rare.
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