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2010/01/01 21:07:28
jamescollins
Danny, that's great that you're booked out for 2 years! I'm also amazed that you manage to make a large (and very helpful) contribution to this forum, after working 12 hrs a day! After a long day at the studio, the last thing in the world I want to do is sit in front of a computer again, so hats off to you! 
2010/01/01 21:24:09
mudgel
Excellent news james. Glad its working so well for you.

I just have it on my master bus and forget about it now that it's setup. Its not till I switch it off that I realise what things used to be like. I'm not so wrapped up in the technical aspects though I do understand a bit of the mumbo jumbo but I do know what my ears tell me. My ears say "YAYY for ARC"!
2010/01/03 01:18:19
Danny Danzi
Hey Zo, thanks sooo much! Omg that thing is awesome!!! I have to run everything in a DAW at all times so I can use ARC...this really makes things easier. I really appreciate it. This is like a HUGE deal to me. I went with the first link you supplied...and it works perfectly and seamlessly. I'm soo stoked...like a little kid in a toy store. LOL! I hope you're having a wonderful time skiing and being safe. :) Thanks again, I owe ya one for this....enjoy your holiday!
2010/01/03 01:44:26
Danny Danzi
jamescollins


Danny, that's great that you're booked out for 2 years! I'm also amazed that you manage to make a large (and very helpful) contribution to this forum, after working 12 hrs a day! After a long day at the studio, the last thing in the world I want to do is sit in front of a computer again, so hats off to you! 
Hi James,
 
Thanks, I try to contribute when I can. I'm not much of a Sonar "feature" user so there's only so much I can help out with. But, if anyone needs to get deep into the techniques of recording and how to get good sounds and know what to listen for, that's where I come to life. LOL!! I stay on my own forum for that though. ;) I really believe if it weren't for ARC that I'd not even be in business with anything. For years I've always felt I was a "fair" engineer that knew my stuff that got "fair" results, yet I could never get things to sound quite right. It's frustrating. Like being locked in your own body and not being able to express what you know is correct. I'd hear stuff and tell you everything that was wrong with it as well as how I'd fix it. I'd do all that in my studio to where it sounded killer on my rig...and sound like @ss everywhere else. I soo don't miss that. Not a single moment of it. I will say this though....I sometimes feel a bit sad not to be struggling. LOL! I know...that sounds strange to say. Let me explain it better.
 
I've been a guitar player for quite a number of years. One of the most challenging aspects of being a guitarist in my opinion, is getting a tone you absolutely love everytime you play. I chased tone for what feels like a million years. I have every amp and rig I've ever owned through the years because I'm a sentimental pack-rat. LOL! But one day, after all my tone chasing and experimenting (which if you do too much your chops can suffer horribly, lemme tell ya!) I found the right sound that totally blew my doors off and was consistent and exactly what I heard in my head for so long. Now that I have it, it's like...where's the challenge? I'm soo used to tweaking, I don't know what to do with myself. LOL! Kinda like reading a good book that takes you months to read, and the day you finish it, you kinda feel sad because you're done, ya know? That's how I felt with the guitar thing and now how I feel about the recording field. It was a breath of fresh air to hear what I was supposed to hear and have what I mixed transfer perfectly on any system I listen on. What took me months now takes hours, and you can't put a price on that really, ya know? :) But the challenge factor is no longer there to be honest. I guess that's a good thing, but ARC made things so much easier, it's like I can throw a project together in a few hours recording it and mixing it, not do much to it and people think I went nuts on it.
 
So you're happy with ARC as well? That's really great to hear. It's amazing you also feel "it's the most significant purchase I've made". I swear I feel that way also. From me posting on this forum, I got a chance to post some stuff on Ik's site. They must check the Sonar forums and saw all the stuff I was saying about it. I eventually made a connection with their East Coast rep Tony Grund and nearly had a job with the company, but I got so busy I wouldn't have been able to. LOL!! The one thing I told him when we talked was, it's just a shame there is no way for people to try this thing before they buy it. I swear man, if I owned stock in this company, I'd try to come up with something to where people could try it with like a Dongle or something, and if they decide it's not for them, they send it back. If they like it, they send the Dongle and the mic back and they send you some sort of unlock code or something along with a new mic if you buy it. I dunno, I know that could be a nightmare for both customers and the company, but man, this thing really needs to be tried to be appreciated...that's all I can really say.
 
Yeah it did something to my stereo field as well. At first (with version 1 of the software) there was literally an issue with phasing.... but you can tell good stereo field and bad phased field...which is what I got in the first one. But even with that version, if you went through the pains of hell to really get the mic positions down, it worked. I did do a re-correction once the next version of the software came out which made things better, but it's all in the placements. I'm just glad guys like you and Mike V have had good results with it. At least when I'm on here bragging about the thing, I'm not alone. LOL!!!
 
Now Zo has me all set up using Winamp with it and I'm in heaven over here. I soo hated loading up Wavelab or something everytime I wanted to hear music. This totally stops all that stuff. I have Win media player doing my mp3's through pc speakers, and Winamp playing off my recording soundcard with ARC in it...so that makes me a pretty happy lil guy. :) Good to hear ARC is working for you. I wish you all the best in your mixing endeavors and hope it turns you into the next Mutt Lange. :) Take care James. 
2010/01/03 02:07:33
mudgel
Hi Danni,
I'm really surprised this thread is still going after all this time.

When I first started the thread, I was like a kid with a new toy. Then I realised this is no toy. I've got the real thing here.

I've kept a low profile about it because it just works and all the nay sayers can say nay for all I care. I don't have to prove ARC's efficacy to them. I took the opportunity to buy the product and it's proven itself to me. If anyone else wants to find out for certain and don't want to take my word then they'll either just continue to be nay sayers or put their money where I put mine.
2010/01/03 02:14:32
Danny Danzi
Hi Mike,

I totally agree. After a while, it gets old for me to either defend the thing or speak about it. But I figure it this way, there will be a few that will feel intrigued after reading how it's helped a few of us, and this thread will remain. Someone will search for ARC, and find it. On another forum I frequent, the haters came out by the dozens to bash the thing to where I said to myself..."ya know what? I'll keep it as my little secret and the rest of the lot can fek off...what's the use". LOL!!

The bottom line in my opinion is, if anyone has tried it and wrote up a review that it sucked, I'd bet all I own they did not do the mic procedure correctly. This thing will improve any listening environment by 100%, hands down. I've only had it fail on a set of NS-10's...but running them through a sub yielded perfect results. All other monitors were corrected with both sub on and sub off so I can toggle through all the corrections and toggle the sub as well. Just the Yam's failed with no sub applied. ARC couldn't even save those wretched things. LOL!!! Glad it's working for you also. We might as well save it as our little secret from here on out. ;)
2010/01/03 02:30:58
mudgel
Nice to read of your continuing commercial growth and success. Above all that you're really enjoying the music. All the best.

SH! Don't tell any one how you did it.

Maybe it'll turn me into a studio engineering hero. LOL!
2010/01/03 07:51:30
Danny Danzi
Yeah it's been a strange ride Mike, as far as how I got to the growth/success point. I won't bore you with those details, I'm just enjoying the moment. All the best to you as well. :) Just curious...have you tried to remix anything that you've worked on in the past with ARC? If so, how much better did your stuff come out? I actually have quite a few mixes I've done that I went back and fixed labeling them "AA" which means "After ARC". LOL! HUGE difference on my end. I think part of my problem besides my room, was straight old, NS-10's which were so bad, it forced me to mix through headphones....and though there are some killer cans out there, I've never been a fan of doing complete mixes with them. Any cool stories to share?
2010/01/06 22:38:51
jayson
I just picked the ARC system up and will be doing the measurements this weekend when I have some time.  I have a large high back chair that I sit in when I mix.  It's covered in thick foam and I believe absorbs some high frequencies.  Should I keep it in place when I do my measurements ... the manual doesn't really say?  Thanks.

Cheers,

jayson
2010/01/07 05:39:16
Danny Danzi
That's really a good question. Chances are, you will probably do a few sets of measurements to get the hang of it. So, maybe do one set with the chair in and one with the chair out and compare the differences. Just call on "Name of speakers with chair" and the other "name of speakers no chair" or something. I would think that it would be best to remove the chair. However, if you're going to be mixing in it and the frequencies will be bouncing off it, ARC will probably compensate for that. The downside may be, it might give you a different level due to the chair reflecting or blocking some sound. I'd definitely do measurements with and without it to play it safe and just compare them. Good luck!
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