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2012/06/14 16:15:04
Dave Modisette
Technically I have, 12 in my Soundcraft mixer, a Studio Projects VTB 1, a JoeMeek TwinQ, a Universal Audio 170 Twinfinity and ultimately an Avalon 737.  But yet, I catch myself scanning Craigslist and ebay trying to find the "good deal" on an ART Pro MPA or a UA 610 or a Golden Age Preamp.
There is no way that I would be lacking a pre amp in any realistic situation.  Is this silly or what?
2012/06/14 17:09:57
bapu
Are you asking me?

Since I rarely record full (or even partial) bands I'd say I have myself covered with my three main preamps. 

P-Solo
Grace m-101
UA-610

Plus I have 4 in my RME Fireface UFX. And, if I ever need them I have 8 each in my TASCAM FW-1884 and my Berhinger ADA-8000 (both lightpiped to my RME).

So I guess I have 23 now that you ask.

I don't scour anywhere 
2012/06/14 17:31:24
Dave Modisette
bapu


Are you asking me?

Since I rarely record full (or even partial) bands I'd say I have myself covered with my three main preamps. 

P-Solo
Grace m-101
UA-610

Plus I have 4 in my RME Fireface UFX. And, if I ever need them I have 8 each in my TASCAM FW-1884 and my Berhinger ADA-8000 (both lightpiped to my RME).

So I guess I have 23 now that you ask.

I don't scour anywhere 
 
 
This is comforting.  You have it worse than me. 

2012/06/14 17:32:14
bapu
Yes, but I did not plan it.

Does that make me a bad person?
2012/06/14 17:37:48
Dave Modisette
bapu


Yes, but I did not plan it.

Does that make me a bad person?


Oh you poor soul, latent GAS.
2012/06/14 17:44:02
SvenArne
Dave, sincere question:

Do you spend time trying to match different pairs of mic and pre for every instrument/voice you record hoping to strike gold, or do you just go by a notion of what the combinations should sound like? Do you find there's a lot to gain from experimenting? 

Sven
2012/06/14 19:47:55
Dave Modisette
SvenArne


Dave, sincere question:

Do you spend time trying to match different pairs of mic and pre for every instrument/voice you record hoping to strike gold, or do you just go by a notion of what the combinations should sound like? Do you find there's a lot to gain from experimenting? 

Sven

I love the quest for tone.  Sometimes it's wonderful accidents that occur with a mic, an instrument and a pre.  Up until recently, I only had the pres in my Soundcraft M12 and the SP VTB1 to use.  The M12 pres sound very close to the UA 710 and the Avalon 737 if you take the extra features of the more expensive units out of the equation.  I loved just moving mics around on cabinets or trying amp/cabinet combinations with different mics and combinations of mics.  When you hit something that works it's glorius. 
 
Now that I have some different mic pres, I'm enjoying the experimentation again.   Yes, I think there is a lot to gain with the experimentation.  I'm discovering that it (what you gain) isn't always apparent and immediate to you though.  When you start adding the different takes and tracks together that's when the magic happens.  You're not layering the same characteristic mic pre sound over and over again so where my M12 pres had a  good sound but a touch of hardness (kind of metallic) to them, that characteristic compounded with each successive track.  It's something that you don't always notice when it's happening.  It's nice to use different pres for different instruments
 
But home studios are about compromise and versatility, IMHO.  Limited time and budget have to factor in.  A cook may have an extensive collection of spices and sauces but if he never bought a pot to cook in, he's be in trouble so that's where I'm at with my post.  I've got to balance things out.  I've got a few nice pres (for a home studio) now, so I think I'm switching fetishes to mics.    I think it's time to stick my toe in the water in the Neumann pool with a TLM 102 followed by a 103.  (Wish I could spend the dough for a U87 but that will be a while.)
2012/06/14 22:12:06
AT
It really depends.  I would think one for every instrument you want to record simulataneously, which is really only a problem if you do drums.  I get by w/ 2 (now up to 3), plus my interface's.  They aren't colors (or is it colours?), but for quality.  right now I have a portico for guitar, a focusrite for bass and the new api-like one for a single drum mic augmented by the interface.  I'd like more, but ...

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2012/06/16 00:16:15
droddey
You need at least one more. Buy the REDD47 I'm selling :-) Then your life will be complete.
2012/06/16 00:57:05
batsbrew
i think the perfect number for a HOME studio, is two.

if you have a nice collection of mics, a pair of  nice preamps, one slightly colored, and one really clean, would be an ideal accompaniment.

the variations between clean and colored, and all the mics, would let you mix it up enough to have a wide frequency range, and not be stuck in one sonic footprint.
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