robert_e_bone
@FreeFlyBerti,
 
Quick question - when you have these multiple instances of Kontakt inserted in your projects, are you loading multiple instruments into each instance?  Or, is there one instrument loaded into each Kontakt instance?  (just curious, wondering if you are using the multi-rack functionality in Kontakt).
 
Can you also list which instruments you happen to have loaded into these Kontakt instances?  I am wondering if there is something there I could try to replicate and look for a workaround (or confirm your workaround), as I too use Kontakt all the time.
 
Hopefully a fix will be along shortly.
Bob Bone

 
Sorry guys for not responding in a long time. Been really busy with work and then suddenly there was Christmas ;-)
 
Bob, the way I (used to) work was to insert one instance of K5 with max number of OUTs (64?) and a template for routing all drums to separate tracks, then Abbey Road would go into the top of the rack and whatever is needed later (Alicia, Heaviocity, Session Horns, ...) goes into the same rack, feeding the remaining stereo OUT pairs ...
 
I am re-thinking this workflow as I run into problems again and again, not all the time, but usually when projects get more complex ... problems like not being able to freeze (just left a comment here), or projects crashing immediately after opening (which is not the case if it's the first project after booting, so there is something in the sample caching that's probably fishy)
 
I believe the troublemaker is mostly Abbey Road drums (as it is the common denominator in the troublesome projects), possibly in combination with the max OUTs version of the Kontakt dll because usually when problems start I end up separating the K5 instruments to separate K5 instances (which is relatively easy to do) and then allows me to freeze these new separate instances (but here I then use the K5 dll with only 4 OUTs).
 
Most of this has started with X3, but there was also a K5 update (in Sep?) ... don't feel like rolling back for just system tests (too busy + too dangerous as I need that system up and running + K5 seems to be the only thing causing hick-ups these days) ... so I'd appreciate any further observation that would allow me to get to the root of this or at least confirm what to avoid ...
 

emwhy
I'm following this thread as well, so please keep us up to date. I love Kontakt, but it has lead to almost all of my crashes in SONAR  X2 & X3 in the past 9 months. That's not to say I've had a lot of crashes, but the Abbey Road drums act finicky at super low latency, I also get the one core shooting through the roof at times while the others barely pop, plus I've gotten weird memory crashes with Alicia's Keys at times.
 
OK here's a strange one. I loaded up Kontakt with just 1 stereo output in its configuration. I normally use the 8 in 8 out version. Anyway, my CPU usage for Modern Drummer was lower and more balanced across the cores than with the other version of Kontakt that uses multiple outputs.......discuss????  
 

 
I'm quite thankful for this post as it finally confirms that it's not just me seeing these issues in a very similar manner (always ARD involved, crashes just occasional) ... let's discuss further ...

I notice nobody has confirmed the issue with X3D patch + RESET and a rescan of plugins (after patch installation), in this thread yet and I'm assuming everybody has updated the plugins via NI service centre?
 
Ta...

Alex,
 
I'm still on X3c until I finish the current project. My updates are usually downloaded via the NI service center on a 2nd PC and then manually installed on the main DAW ...
 
Not aware of the rescan issue (missed the thread???)

Here's another problem I have encountered which may or may not help troubleshoot the issue FreeFly is having.
 
I can load Kontakt through Drumagog, both running as 32 bit plug-ins through jBridge with one of the Abbey Road kits loaded for drum enhancement. For the most part things load OK noting that as 32 bit bridged apps they are seeing only the first 2-4 gigs of memory. If I attempt to change presets in Kontakt on the Abbey Road kit selected it will either crash Sonar all together, or at least hang the program for about a minute or so and both Drumagog and Sonar will say they are "Not Responding". I have also had instances under the same scenario where loading a project will crash as soon as it's done or I hit play on the transport or spacebar. This happened on X2A all the time, but I only get system hangs with X3D which is tolerable because experience has taught me they will reslove.
 So I have the same symptoms, but different scenario working for both. Yes I have rescanned since X3D and have all the latest NI updates via Service Center.
 
 
 
 

FreeFlyBertl
Alex,
 
I'm still on X3c until I finish the current project. My updates are usually downloaded via the NI service center on a 2nd PC and then manually installed on the main DAW ...
 
Not aware of the rescan issue (missed the thread???)

Robert please update your plugins via NI service centre, patch Sonar up to X3D, then reset and then rescan your plugins (to emphasise not just a rescan). Let us know if your issue is resolved or not when you are next able to do this.
 
Thanks..

Same with X3d

So did you update your plugins via NI service centre and perform a VST reset?
 
Thanks..

YES, and it is the same thing.
Cheers