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  • Shot in the Back - Rock - Updated mix (p.2)
2015/10/06 09:28:15
kevinwal
stevec
Good song!   Overall I think the mix works but could maybe use a few tweaks...  I agree with the snare comments, where I'm almost hearing a higher pitched version; and maybe a bit more snap/top vs. bottom/snares.  For the kick I'd personally cut back on the hi click just a little or maybe lower its frequency if you can, otherwise it seems to blend with the bass very nicely.    All subjective nit-picks though because it does sound good!   I like the changes from verse to chorus, very cool..



Thanks for your feedback, Steve. I'm not really clear on what you mean by snap on the top vs. the bottom snares, can you elaborate a bit? Do you mean to even them out or to emphasize one over the other? Thanks again!
2015/10/06 09:30:14
kevinwal
Grizzlylip
I loved the guitars in general.  Nice tone, placed well in the mix, and good volume.  I also enjoyed the breakdown at 2 minutes.  I was needing a change in pace and that served this purpose well.  My only critique would be complimentary to those above regarding the synth.  In my opinion, it is unnecessary and sounds almost forced.  If you are committed to keeping it I would suggest trying an aggressive use of a high pass filter and maybe some volume reduction.  This way it would present itself as a nuance.  Just thinking out loud. 
 
My 7 year old son walked in and said "nice song, I like the drums."  So, there you have it.  I would trust his judgment over mine.


Thanks, Grizzlylip (there's an image for ya!) That's two votes against the synth, I'm seeing a trend here. :) I always trust the instincts of a seven year old, they're much smarter than I am. Extend my thanks to him, wouldja? :)
2015/10/06 09:32:33
kevinwal
Wouter Schijns
sounds really good I thought, great performance/playing too.
Only think I could find is maybe the bass guitar hass a hair too much low freqs (somewhere from 60 to 40Hz).
Great stuff !
 



That's great advice, Wouter, I'm struggling to make the bass more audible but natural on crappy devices like laptop speakers in general (not just this song) and this might help some. I've boosted around 750 and 1k and that's helped some but cutting down low might help a lot. Thank you! 
2015/10/06 09:34:17
kevinwal
synkrotron
kevinwal
I'm a bit intimidated by some of the quality I'm hearing from you guys



Hi Kevin,
 
I know exactly what you mean. Listening to Shot In The Back, though, I don't think you have anything to worry about.
 
Cool song, and sounds pretty good to my ears .
 
There's some excellent advice here already, and I'm not going to embarrass myself by trying to add to that
 
cheers
 
andy


Thanks, andy! I've listened to your stuff and you're one of the ones I was thinking of when I wrote that!  I very much appreciate all of the feedback from everyone, very helpful!
2015/10/06 09:55:33
synkrotron
kevinwal
and you're one of the ones I was thinking of when I wrote that!



Eh! Get outa here!
 
(thanks though... where do I send the cheque? Do you accept paypal )
2015/10/06 10:03:38
kevinwal
Yeah, really. I was speaking of Corona, which I really dig.
2015/10/06 10:09:56
synkrotron
kevinwal
Yeah, really. I was speaking of Corona, which I really dig.




Aye! One of my better ones Kevin... The rest of my stuff is all electrickery
 
 
2015/10/06 15:07:23
stevec
kevinwal
stevec
Good song!   Overall I think the mix works but could maybe use a few tweaks...  I agree with the snare comments, where I'm almost hearing a higher pitched version; and maybe a bit more snap/top vs. bottom/snares.  For the kick I'd personally cut back on the hi click just a little or maybe lower its frequency if you can, otherwise it seems to blend with the bass very nicely.    All subjective nit-picks though because it does sound good!   I like the changes from verse to chorus, very cool..



Thanks for your feedback, Steve. I'm not really clear on what you mean by snap on the top vs. the bottom snares, can you elaborate a bit? Do you mean to even them out or to emphasize one over the other? Thanks again!




Exactly - I would try emphasizing the snares' top head vs. bottom (real or virtual) for a bit more "pop".  The drum sounds good as-is, I just imagine less snares/mic'd bottom head in the overall tone, if that makes sense.   If you're using a drum synth I'd also try raising the pitch a little to see if that gives it a little more snap on its own. 
 
2015/10/06 16:31:46
rscain
Really cool song! It's different, yet feels familiar if that makes any sense (to me that's a really good thing). Nice guitar work, vocals sound really good (nice harmonies!), good drums, could maybe use some more high end on the snare as noted but it's your song so whatever works for you. It gets the job done as is.
Mix issues can be fixed. Not saying there are any, we can tweak forever and probably always find a nit or two.
The important thing is, is it a good song with a good arrangement? I think the answer here is heck yes.
Great job, thanks for sharing it!
2015/10/06 20:41:07
Beagle
great work!  yes, this is a good arrangement!  great performances
 
nothing to add to the mix comments that haven't already been covered
 
great job!
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