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2014/01/10 11:16:37
Bristol_Jonesey
Kev999
Sanderxpander
I don't use manual tempo changes very often so I had never noticed they don't move when you insert or delete time. This would qualify to me as a bug.



Maybe it's a new X3 bug, but Insert works fine for me in X2a. I just tested it out by inserting a single measure in a project that contained tempo changes and several different time signatures.  Everything, including tempo changes and time signatures, shifted along to the right the way it's meant to.


Agreed
 
Inserting Time/Measures has ALWAYS moved EVERYTHING to the right, from Sonar 6 onwards, at least for me.
2014/01/10 11:31:33
brconflict
I've gotten used to Sonar, and it's becoming a bit more useful every day. There was (and still is) a learning curve, definitely, but this is true with almost all of the DAW's on the market. Probably the only things I think still need work are Take Lanes (which are far better now than in X2), and I'm liking ProChannel less and less, and I'm moving back to using the standard FX bin for plug-ins. I would like to see those FX bins expanded to show up to 8 -10 plug-ins.
2014/01/10 11:37:12
fooman
I was frustrated with clip selection till I looked it up and found I had to right click!  That made it a lot quicker for me to do what I need in terms of clip-deletion and selection.
 
I need to sit down and go through some serious drum-editing with X3.  I am in the same boat as the OP.  I looooved layers.  I still record & edit in X1 due to that reason, then move to mix in X3.  I don't like the screen real-estate taken up by Take Lanes as well.  Seems to just have a lot of emptiness.  But I think that I need to remember to use the shortcut to remove empty lanes and all that.  I would truly love a video of someone editing something in free-time.  Not gridded.  I always run into clip-crossfade issues with gaps between clips.  But I've said that too much lately haha.
 
The learning curve is a big one with lanes for me.  It's honestly my biggest knock on X2/3.  There's also a few bugs with audiosnap I've run into that kill time.
But... I hope to get a few hrs to sit down and watch FBB's vids.  I've started but it's a LOT to take in.  It's cool to hear a lot of the set up options explained a bit thoroughly.
2014/01/10 13:02:11
robert_e_bone
Yeah - I have seen a bunch of posts where once folks learned the new methods of doing things they seem to have discovered they like it.
 
Bob Bone
 
2014/01/10 13:08:18
WallyG
...wicked
"T" is your friend, it will bring up the tool selection pallette (they call it a HUD for "Heads Up Display")....


Thanks for the tip. Probably read that somewhere in the manuals, but when you're drinking from the fire hose of knowledge, sometimes you dribble a tidbit.
Walt
 
 
 
2014/01/10 13:51:30
jkoseattle
CakeAlexS
> I think the biggest hurdle for me is zooming and navigating to what I'm interested in editing quickly
 
Zoom shortcuts
SHIFT click on Zoom buttons = Make largest/smallest zoom.
CTRL + Arrow keys = Best way to Zoom!
Hold down Z, Select area = Zoom in on that area! Alt-Z undos this!
F = Fit tracks to the window
SHIFT + F = Fit project to window
AlT-Z = Undoes a screen action.
SHIFT Double click a clip = Maximizes it.
F11 = Full screen mode
SHIFT-Z = Enable/disable auto Zoom on tracks.




I'm printing this out and tacking it to my monitor, thanks!
 
Alt-Z doesn't seem to work for me. It undoes a zoom in Track View, but not in PRV. Even if I'm sitting in PRV working, and zoom by holding down Z and selecting, subsequently hitting Alt-Z changes the zoom in the Track View window, but the PRV remains unchanged. Er??
 
Pretty unrelated question, but typing that last paragraph reminded me. I use Ctrl-Space and Space both a great deal, depending on whether I want the Now time to stay or to rewind. However, sometimes I get it wrong, and hit Space when I meant to hit Ctrl-Space. What this does of course is rewind me to perhaps somewhere quite far afield from where I was last listening. Then it's a long process of finding where I was. Is there, by any chance, a key I can hit that essentially tells Sonar "I meant to hit Ctrl-Space, so take me to where I  would be if I'd remembered to use the Ctrl button."?
2014/01/10 13:54:12
jkoseattle
Bristol_Jonesey
Kev999
Sanderxpander
I don't use manual tempo changes very often so I had never noticed they don't move when you insert or delete time. This would qualify to me as a bug.



Maybe it's a new X3 bug, but Insert works fine for me in X2a. I just tested it out by inserting a single measure in a project that contained tempo changes and several different time signatures.  Everything, including tempo changes and time signatures, shifted along to the right the way it's meant to.


Agreed
 
Inserting Time/Measures has ALWAYS moved EVERYTHING to the right, from Sonar 6 onwards, at least for me.




Yes, I meant if you select notes and slide them over in PRV. You can't, that I know, select notes and move them AND have the tempo and pedal markings move along with it.
2014/01/10 14:05:51
brundlefly
jkoseattle
 
Yes, I meant if you select notes and slide them over in PRV. You can't, that I know, select notes and move them AND have the tempo and pedal markings move along with it.



Check Select Controllers with Notes in the Controller menu of the PRV to have pedal controllers move with notes.
 
But it makes sense to me that you can't select and move tempos in the PRV because you could potentially not have all tracks selected when you move notes in the PRV which would screw things up. The way I look at it is that Tempo is a project-level parameter that needs to be managed at a higher level than the PRV.
2014/01/10 14:32:53
Bristol_Jonesey
I think you explained that pretty well Dave  
2014/01/10 14:49:19
mettelus
jkoseattle
Is there, by any chance, a key I can hit that essentially tells Sonar "I meant to hit Ctrl-Space, so take me to where I would be if I'd remembered to use the Ctrl button."?



There are a few things you can do. In the track view, select "Options->On stop, rewind to Now marker" and then you can use the now marker at the top of the track view to work on smaller passages (just move it around with your mouse).
 
When rewinding an entire clip, I will often use Shft-G (also handy when you are working on smaller passages so you do not rewind the entire project by accident).
 
CTRL-Enter and Shft-G both move the now marker with them when activated, so bear this in mind.
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