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2014/01/09 09:10:52
rontarrant
I've been looking at taking advantage of the upgrade offer to Melodyne Editor, but before I do, I'd like to find out if it's really going to be useful to me. So, I'd like to find out what other people are using it for, not just generic, theoretical possibilities, but like "Here's how I solved this specific problem the other day" kind of things.
 
For instance, I found two use-case scenarios so far in another thread:
 
1) John T said: "I did the upgrade, fixed a flubbed chord on a recording, and got on with what I was doing within a couple of minutes. It was only about an hour later it struck me how rarely things are that easy."
 
2) Teds_Studio said: "Being able to edit a single note in a guitar chord is amazing (which I was able to do for a client).  He was absolutely impressed that I could change a major chord to a minor chord within a minute and save him from having to re-record the part."
 
But those are all I've found. In both of these cases, since I'm rarely-if-ever recording other musicians at this point, it's easier/faster for me to re-record a part than fiddle with Melodyne to fix a problem such as this. Even if it worked out faster to do with Melodyne, my time isn't worth so much money right now that I can justify the cost.
 
Any insights, scenarios or opinions are welcome.
2014/01/09 09:18:43
Splat
As you already stated guitar chords are awesome. Yesterday I went through a guitar piece where the guitarist was consistantly finger picking the wrong note so I slid it each one up job done. Just for that it was worth the money.

In your case well maybe sticking with the existing version may be a good idea as I see your point of view.

It's a much better idea to fix stuff before it gets anywhere near melodyne.
2014/01/09 10:32:27
Sanderxpander
You can get pretty creative with it when you want to, but personally I use it 99 percent for pitch and timing correction on vocals. It's brilliant on that, and "ok" with some other applications. I would say if you DON'T need it for vocals at all, save yourself the money.
2014/01/09 11:22:44
brian brock
melodyne essential also lacks several useful tools compared to assistant or editor.
 
comparison chart:
http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.php?id=383
 
The polyphonic mode is pretty awesome.  Depending on the source it can be a bit tricky to get transparent results on pitch-shifting one note in a chord (for example), sometimes it requires editing the note detection manually, but when it works it can be surprisingly effective.
 
It goes beyond just pitch correction.  For example, you can use the Amplitude tool to change the volume of one note in a chord.  This can totally change the feel and bring out or subdue inner-chord voices, and is much simpler to pull off than changing pitch.
 
It also works pretty well merely as a tool for analysis.
 
I think that the monophonic assistant version should be adequate for 90 percent of the cases I read about people using Melodyne - for that last 10 percent, there is basically no other tool available that can do it, so if you need to mess around with the guts of polyphonic material, Melodyne editor is it.
2014/01/09 12:17:06
rontarrant
Thanks, CakeAlexS, Sanderexpander and Brian Brock for the replies and the info.
 
@Brian: Could you please expand a bit on what you mean by 'analysis?'
2014/01/09 18:25:34
pbognar
rontarrant
I've been looking at taking advantage of the upgrade offer to Melodyne Editor, but before I do, I'd like to find out if it's really going to be useful to me. So, I'd like to find out what other people are using it for, not just generic, theoretical possibilities, but like "Here's how I solved this specific problem the other day" kind of things.
 
For instance, I found two use-case scenarios so far in another thread:
 
1) John T said: "I did the upgrade, fixed a flubbed chord on a recording, and got on with what I was doing within a couple of minutes. It was only about an hour later it struck me how rarely things are that easy."
 
2) Teds_Studio said: "Being able to edit a single note in a guitar chord is amazing (which I was able to do for a client).  He was absolutely impressed that I could change a major chord to a minor chord within a minute and save him from having to re-record the part."
 
But those are all I've found. In both of these cases, since I'm rarely-if-ever recording other musicians at this point, it's easier/faster for me to re-record a part than fiddle with Melodyne to fix a problem such as this. Even if it worked out faster to do with Melodyne, my time isn't worth so much money right now that I can justify the cost.
 
Any insights, scenarios or opinions are welcome.




I was wondering if Melodyne Editor could be used to manipulate discrete instrument audio loops, such as electric piano, organ, or clavs, so you change a minor loop to a major loop, or change the scale being used.
 
If it works, it would breath some life into instrument loops, such that a loop might fit into more song situations, and be almost as modifiable as a MIDI loop.
 
 
2014/01/09 18:55:34
mettelus
Rather than ask us (since our uses may not cater to your needs at all), I would recommend downloading the trial (http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.php?id=demos) and running the freaking rims off it for what YOU want
It is fully functional for 30 days... so rip the tires off it!
2014/01/09 19:12:44
rontarrant
mettelus
Rather than ask us (since our uses may not cater to your needs at all), I would recommend downloading the trial (http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.php?id=demos) and running the freaking rims off it for what YOU want
It is fully functional for 30 days... so rip the tires off it!

I did think of that, but I'm concerned about not being able to go back to Essential after the 30 days. Since all versions are installed from the same installer, I don't want to end up having to do some drastic uninstall/reinstall procedure to get back to the version I have now. I've gone through that type of thing with other software and I'd rather not go through it again if I can avoid it, IYKWIM.
 
2014/01/09 20:26:15
Splat
Check with Celomony but Editor and Essentials use exactly the same software, the only difference is the serial number unlocks the features. I would not be surprised if the demo operates that way as well and you can go back or forth without worrying about further installation. Just a guess.
 
p.s. I wish Cake did this, I bet Cake wish they did this as well.
2014/01/09 22:29:13
T9CStudio
The first time I tried Melodyne Editor a couple of years ago was when a friend sent me a complete mix with an out of tune trumpet at the end of the song. I was able to fix it and go on adding more parts to the mix.  Essential, being monophonic wouldn't have done the job. 
 
I am also on the fence whether to upgrade. Some good responses so far.
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