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2014/01/09 22:49:23
bluzdog
pbognar
rontarrant
I've been looking at taking advantage of the upgrade offer to Melodyne Editor, but before I do, I'd like to find out if it's really going to be useful to me. So, I'd like to find out what other people are using it for, not just generic, theoretical possibilities, but like "Here's how I solved this specific problem the other day" kind of things.
 
For instance, I found two use-case scenarios so far in another thread:
 
1) John T said: "I did the upgrade, fixed a flubbed chord on a recording, and got on with what I was doing within a couple of minutes. It was only about an hour later it struck me how rarely things are that easy."
 
2) Teds_Studio said: "Being able to edit a single note in a guitar chord is amazing (which I was able to do for a client).  He was absolutely impressed that I could change a major chord to a minor chord within a minute and save him from having to re-record the part."
 
But those are all I've found. In both of these cases, since I'm rarely-if-ever recording other musicians at this point, it's easier/faster for me to re-record a part than fiddle with Melodyne to fix a problem such as this. Even if it worked out faster to do with Melodyne, my time isn't worth so much money right now that I can justify the cost.
 
Any insights, scenarios or opinions are welcome.




I was wondering if Melodyne Editor could be used to manipulate discrete instrument audio loops, such as electric piano, organ, or clavs, so you change a minor loop to a major loop, or change the scale being used.
 
If it works, it would breath some life into instrument loops, such that a loop might fit into more song situations, and be almost as modifiable as a MIDI loop.
 
 




You should have no problem with that. I used it on a song today: the singer played a percussion part on stainless steel bowls ( the cooking and mixing king ) I tuned the hits to the key of the song, used a gate ( sonitus ) with a side chain from a tambourine track to keep it groovin' ( fast attack, short release ). It came out sounding pretty awesome!
 
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2014/01/10 14:11:45
jatoth
This may not be exclusive to Editor, but I have used Melodyne to create 3,4, and 5 part harmony from a single vocal take. I've even done an a cappella tune this way. It is awesome for adjusting pitch, timing and fomants for a real chorus sound.
 
2014/01/11 08:25:00
FCCfirstclass
I tried the trial edition of Editor on my open reel tapes from the '70s and '80s of the house band recorded at the Drift On Inn in North Seattle to try to bring the soloists' vocals and guitar up to pitch.  It worked well as I could not use a global pitch correction.  I am going to buy the $149 upgrade for this alone.  I figure that any project I use it on now is a bonus.
2014/01/11 09:51:37
mondaydave
I use it almost as a remix tool, opening samples from tracks, rearranging notes and altering melodies.
I see it almost as a PRV on steroids, Moving audio around and changing the pitch as if it where the midi data in PRV. I have built complete parts from a single 1 bar sample in this way.
 
 
2014/01/11 10:49:49
FCCfirstclass
mondaydave
I use it almost as a remix tool, opening samples from tracks, rearranging notes and altering melodies.
I see it almost as a PRV on steroids, Moving audio around and changing the pitch as if it where the midi data in PRV. I have built complete parts from a single 1 bar sample in this way.
 
 


Great use of Editor.  I should have mentioned that turning audio into MIDI is one of the best process that I use.
2014/01/11 15:04:46
brian brock
one thing to note is that a lot of the advanced uses for Melodyne make it so that it isn't practical to bounce things.  In some ways Meldodyne can be more like a synth than just a pitch-correction set-it-and-forget-it plugin.  This makes it so that a lot of the bugs and quirks with it become real problems - for simple uses the workaround of bouncing and moving on seems good, but for a lot of more creative purposes it isn't possible to bounce because Melodyne is acting as an instrument in the composition/arrangement process...
2014/01/11 17:14:52
Sanderxpander
I practically never bounce it. Haven't had to copy/paste edited clips yet since I installed X3d. Really hoping it will somehow be fine on my system...
2014/01/11 19:04:06
rontarrant
I really appreciate all the information, guys. It's convinced me that most situations where Melodyne is used is for one-note-at-a-time stuff (monophonic?) and so Essential or one of the other tools I already have will do the job. For polyphonic stuff, it's far easier and faster to just talk myself into doing another take.
 
With the other tools I already have available (AudioSnap, V-Vocal, Melodyne Essential and Pitch Shifter) I think I can cover just about any situation that will arise for me in the foreseeable future.
 
What's really weird is that my wife told me I could spend the money on the upgrade and I'm ending up turning it down. But then, I'm likely going to need nearfield monitors in the near future. I'm using a pair I borrowed right now and I'll soon have to return them, so the money will go toward that.
 
 
2014/01/11 19:09:15
rontarrant
FCCfirstclass
I tried the trial edition of Editor on my open reel tapes from the '70s and '80s of the house band recorded at the Drift On Inn in North Seattle to try to bring the soloists' vocals and guitar up to pitch.  It worked well as I could not use a global pitch correction.  I am going to buy the $149 upgrade for this alone.  I figure that any project I use it on now is a bonus.

Now this is one situation where it might actually be useful. I have recordings of a band I sang with in 1976 and there are a few things that could be fixed. I also have recordings of another band from 1982-83 that could use a bit of polish.
 
On the other hand, there's no real value to doing that with these particular tapes, so it would only be for vanity's sake. I have to ask myself if it's worth it, even as a mixing exercise.
2014/01/11 20:33:48
Splat
Sanderxpander
I practically never bounce it. Haven't had to copy/paste edited clips yet since I installed X3d. Really hoping it will somehow be fine on my system...

 
brian brock
one thing to note is that a lot of the advanced uses for Melodyne make it so that it isn't practical to bounce things.  In some ways Meldodyne can be more like a synth than just a pitch-correction set-it-and-forget-it plugin.  This makes it so that a lot of the bugs and quirks with it become real problems - for simple uses the workaround of bouncing and moving on seems good, but for a lot of more creative purposes it isn't possible to bounce because Melodyne is acting as an instrument in the composition/arrangement process...




When I'm done I clone the track first and then bounce the copy. Then I archive off the original track. In fact I make a clone before I do the Melodyne edits as well.
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