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2014/01/12 07:15:05
FCCfirstclass
Thanks to Ron and Alex and all the posters for all the ideas for using Melodyne.  As with other instruments, the processes are in place and just need to be figured out on how to use them.  Vanity or not, the preservation of audio artifacts should be a goal of each one of us. 
2014/01/12 11:00:34
brian brock
CakeAlexS
When I'm done I clone the track first and then bounce the copy. Then I archive off the original track. In fact I make a clone before I do the Melodyne edits as well.



Isn't cloning a track with Melodyne as Region Effect broken?  I thought I had tested it in x3d...
2014/01/12 11:18:23
Guitarhacker
I've had Editor for years now, and it is, without a doubt, an essential tool that I use on every project.
 
As far as people saying "it's quicker to record that part again"... well that depends. If you know your way around ME and know how to use it's tools effectively, it's faster to fix in in ME than to set up to record a part again.  If, however, the glitch is a big one and the note needs to be moved more than a whole step or perhaps more.... recording again is the best option.
 
I have used it to:
 
stretch a note played by a sax. it was a quarter, needed it as a whole.... worked fine, sounded good.
change chords as mentioned from original to something else.... mostly moving notes half steps.
moved audio in time... notes that we slightly off the beat, slide them to the beat.... flawless.
deleted notes from piano and guitar chords to make the chord sparse.
fix bad notes in bass or other instrument tracks. (sometimes I just do copy/paste)
Increase the volume or decrease as needed of a note or phrase.
smooth out vibrato in a singers voice.... lessen or increase it as needed. mostly lessen
fix other vocal glitches... not sure what they are called, but not vibrato or pitch issues.... totally fixable with care.
fix vocal tracks that are slightly off pitch... totally transparent. (this is my main use of ME)
create a harmony vocal track from the original melody vocal track (note: this one had artifacts as the original notes had to be moved a fair distance. By keeping the harmony volume low, the artifacts are not as blatantly obvious.  see "Come & Go" on my music site.)
 
hope this helps.  It is indispensable to my work in the studio.
 
BTW: every bit of that is done manually. I do not use the automatic correction mode at all ..... I stopped doing it with automatic a good 2 years ago. Much better control over the process when you go measure by measure, and track by track that needs ME's help. It takes a bit longer but the time and effort are well worth it.
2014/01/12 11:55:43
Splat
brian brock
Isn't cloning a track with Melodyne as Region Effect broken?  I thought I had tested it in x3d...



From what I saw copying clips from track to track is broken not cloning tracks. Cheers...
2014/01/12 15:02:11
brian brock
yeah looks like they fixed the Melodyne cloning issue, I missed that.  Good news.  Fix for copying Melodyne clips should be relatively similar, I guess, although the timing information will have to be recomputed since the copy may not even be at the same tempo, or lined up with the same beats...
2014/01/12 17:04:04
rontarrant
GuitarhackerAs far as people saying "it's quicker to record that part again"... well that depends. If you know your way around ME and know how to use it's tools effectively, it's faster to fix in in ME than to set up to record a part again.  If, however, the glitch is a big one and the note needs to be moved more than a whole step or perhaps more.... recording again is the best option.

 
Yeah, good point. I suppose in a couple of years I may change my tune... er, ah... so to speak.
 
Guitarhackerhope this helps.  It is indispensable to my work in the studio.

 
Yup, helps a lot. A nice comprehensive list was just what I was looking for. I can see myself using Essential for a couple of those, but the rest? Nope.
 
GuitarhackerBTW: every bit of that is done manually. I do not use the automatic correction mode at all ..... I stopped doing it with automatic a good 2 years ago. Much better control over the process when you go measure by measure, and track by track that needs ME's help. It takes a bit longer but the time and effort are well worth it.

So far, what I've done is use the automatic controls and then fix the glitches it causes. Did you go through a stage where you did that, or just go straight to manual fixes all the way through? I'm just wondering if I'm saving myself some work or causing myself more work by doing it that way. Any insight you could provide would be very much appreciated.
2014/01/12 17:08:01
rontarrant
CakeAlexS
From what I saw copying clips from track to track is broken not cloning tracks. Cheers...

I've had that problem, too, which is why I started bouncing any tracks I've massaged with pitch/time correction tools, regardless of which tool I use. And, of course, copying/cloning/whatever is no problem after that.
 
2014/01/13 05:57:34
Vastman
wow! timely list... I've got till the 20th to upgrade....arrrrg!  Mortgage due... Sprint due.... arrrrg! 
 
so why did I open this thread?
2014/01/13 06:04:32
rontarrant
Vastmanso why did I open this thread?

Because, Dana, plugins are to musicians what apples were to Eve. All they need is a snake (thread) to make the connection.
2014/01/13 07:07:42
FCCfirstclass
Guitarhacker
I've had Editor for years now, and it is, without a doubt, an essential tool that I use on every project.
 
As far as people saying "it's quicker to record that part again"... well that depends. If you know your way around ME and know how to use it's tools effectively, it's faster to fix in in ME than to set up to record a part again.  If, however, the glitch is a big one and the note needs to be moved more than a whole step or perhaps more.... recording again is the best option.
 
I have used it to:
 
stretch a note played by a sax. it was a quarter, needed it as a whole.... worked fine, sounded good.
change chords as mentioned from original to something else.... mostly moving notes half steps.
moved audio in time... notes that we slightly off the beat, slide them to the beat.... flawless.
deleted notes from piano and guitar chords to make the chord sparse.
fix bad notes in bass or other instrument tracks. (sometimes I just do copy/paste)
Increase the volume or decrease as needed of a note or phrase.
smooth out vibrato in a singers voice.... lessen or increase it as needed. mostly lessen
fix other vocal glitches... not sure what they are called, but not vibrato or pitch issues.... totally fixable with care.
fix vocal tracks that are slightly off pitch... totally transparent. (this is my main use of ME)
create a harmony vocal track from the original melody vocal track (note: this one had artifacts as the original notes had to be moved a fair distance. By keeping the harmony volume low, the artifacts are not as blatantly obvious.  see "Come & Go" on my music site.)
 
hope this helps.  It is indispensable to my work in the studio.
 
BTW: every bit of that is done manually. I do not use the automatic correction mode at all ..... I stopped doing it with automatic a good 2 years ago. Much better control over the process when you go measure by measure, and track by track that needs ME's help. It takes a bit longer but the time and effort are well worth it.


Thank you.  It is a very impressive list. 
 
BTW Vastman, I received an email last week from Melodyne with an offer to upgrade to Editor for half price, $149, and the offer is good until Jan 31st.  I was foaming at the mouth last November when I missed the initial upgrade offer (my wife's car ate a chunk of money) and was hoping they would repeat the offer next Christmas.  Well, it seems it is 11 months early.  Yea! I will upgrade this week.
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