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  • How to get midi track(s) to trigger Virtual Instrument track(s) (p.2)
2014/01/09 16:34:37
JimmyBoy
Thanks john,
 
TBH I couldn't figure out how to delete these events...
 
Interestingly, even though I have removed all these events from the track - when I select a new bank, type and patch for example in Z3ta+2.1, then hit play it resets the type and patch back to the first of the set, the bank remains to what ever I set it to before I hit the play...
 
It's no means clear to me why this is happening hence frustration begins to set in...
 
 
2014/01/10 17:06:00
JimmyBoy
I get it now!  Not so sure if this is a bug or if this is by design - I'd appreciate if someone can confirm...  If this is by design then I think this is a huge limitation and poor a design
 
If a midi track has some patch configured (you'll see it in the "event list" view if one exist in your midi track - for an example refer to my previous post above) you can delete these 2 lines simply by clicking in the midi record entry and hit the "DELETE" key for each of these record entries in the list. 
 
Now that these patch changes are removed from the midi track, you would think from the midi softsynth plugin you should/could/can be used to assign a patch from its program bank... WRONG,... because once you stop and then hit play again it reverts back to patch 0 of the selected program bank.
 
Here is where I think this is a bug, I would think naturally what ever you choose from the softsyth's plugin it should take effect, but it doesn't!!  I would have thought if I chose a patch from the programs plugin softsynth an entry in the "event list" of a patch change should be inserted as a record in the current position in the "event list", but it doesn't - so this is where this seems to pose a problem - is this by design or is it a bug??).
 
What I've since discovered though, you can only configure, for the midi track in focus a patch from the console view "bank, patch" pulldown options. Note a patch change in the midi "event list" is again NOT inserted, this selection of the bank, patch will affect the whole track which sounds logical from the console view perspective.
 

 
2014/01/13 16:29:57
JimmyBoy
"I think" I have finally, FINALLY got it!
 
Just need to sit back and breathe....
 
If I want to insert midi changes etc in the "event list" there is a " + | - " in the top left of the "event list" box... I always thought these were maximize/minimize buttons, not until I hovered over them I could see they were "insert [ins]/delete [del] event" - doh!
 
I hit the "+" to insert an event and then double clicked on the "Kind" field of the event, a popup "Kind of event" appears, I can chose from a list the type of event to change it to, then I double click in the "data" field of the event.
 
And then I can choose the patch change... pfffffff
 
 
 
I know believe when "Alice in Chains" wrote "Dirt" they must have been using Sonar and trying to figure this midi stuff out  
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