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2014/01/12 09:11:27
Awes
Hi all
 
Having a wee bit of a problem with the pitch to MIDI function in V-Vocal which I'm hoping one of you fine folks can help me out with. 
 
I'm currently mixing a track for someone else and the kick drum is a bit 'clicky'. It's quite a strange rhythm and I don't have the skills to re-create as a MIDI myself, so thought I'd give this feature a go. This is what I'm doing and what I'm getting:
 
- selecting the drum track and creating the V-Vocal clip
- automatically opens up V-Vocal, I then select all the hits (ctrl-A), right mouse button and 'pitch to MIDI'
- I drag the icon on the bottom right of V-Vocal labelled 'pitch to MIDI' (displayed by hover text) and drag it up, dropping it in the track view, creating a new track
- when I open the PRV for this MIDI track, it has one or two MIDI hits, nothing more. 
 
I've ctrl-A all MIDI hits and dragged them out wider to make sure they weren't so small I couldn't see them, but nothing!
 
Any advice greatly appreciated. Thanks :)
2014/01/12 09:33:30
paulo
Try boosting the volume of the track first and then see if it works. VV has a habit of missing things that are quieter. Melodyne does this very well, but as you're not using that I guess the X3 included version doesn't have that feature ?
2014/01/12 13:09:17
Awes
paulo
Try boosting the volume of the track first and then see if it works. VV has a habit of missing things that are quieter. Melodyne does this very well, but as you're not using that I guess the X3 included version doesn't have that feature ?


Thanks for the idea but no such luck. Over 5 mins worth of kick & it still only pulls through a couple of notes.

Read about Melodyne being able to do it, but it's only Essential with X3 so no such function unfortunately.
2014/01/12 13:19:03
dubdisciple
Longshot here, but scroll up or down in the PRV to make sure some of the hits were not somehow falling on notes out of range of the instrument.  Your mention that the drums are kind of clicky, makes me suspect it is possible V-vocal may be detecting them as a higher pitch
2014/01/12 17:38:16
Awes
dubdisciple
Longshot here, but scroll up or down in the PRV to make sure some of the hits were not somehow falling on notes out of range of the instrument.  Your mention that the drums are kind of clicky, makes me suspect it is possible V-vocal may be detecting them as a higher pitch


Thanks, but tried that too already. Even set the MIDI track via BFD to hear any other hits but only got the 2 random ones. Driving me insane now!
2014/01/12 17:53:42
dubdisciple
Is it possible for you to share the file with us?
2014/01/12 17:53:45
paulo
CPFC1985
dubdisciple
Longshot here, but scroll up or down in the PRV to make sure some of the hits were not somehow falling on notes out of range of the instrument.  Your mention that the drums are kind of clicky, makes me suspect it is possible V-vocal may be detecting them as a higher pitch


Thanks, but tried that too already. Even set the MIDI track via BFD to hear any other hits but only got the 2 random ones. Driving me insane now!



If you put the wav up somewhere that I can download it, I'll try running it through melodyne for you and see if that works.
2014/01/12 18:31:59
simpleman
Audio Snap also does audio-to-midi. Found it even better for drums than V-Vocal.
2014/01/12 19:16:05
rontarrant
+1 for Audio Snap.
2014/01/13 08:27:22
Awes
Again, thanks for the help guys, it is really appreciated!
 
I'll give AudioSnap a blast and see how I get on, I'll let you know.
 
The file can be downloaded from here:
 
http://www.sendspace.com/file/6t9fr3
 
Thanks again!
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