Hi, guys,
This has happened to me a few times now, so thought to post it here to see if anyone else is experiencing it.
 
Upon completing a recording - I see the waveforms for digital audio and MIDI information in the track view.  I save the project (I'm confident I saved it).  For some reason, Sonar froze AFTER I saved the project.  Upon restarting Sonar and opening up the recent project - all the recently recorded / saved waveforms don't show up in the Track View.  I go into the audio folder - and the WAV files are there (confirming that I saved everything) , so I can simply re-import them back into the project - but I can't find the MIDI data to reimport?  So, 3 questions:
1. Is anybody else experiencing this? It's happened to me 3 times now.
2. Where does Sonar store the MIDI data for songs - I can't find it to reimport it into the project?  Is it integrated into the cwp file? 
3. Any ideas on a solution?
 
 
 
Thanks
Russ
 

I am not experiencing this.
Sadly all our footers and post counts have disappeared in these forums, are you using X3D or another version of Sonar?
I believe the MIDI data to be embedded in the Cakewalk project folder file itself but please wait for a second opinion.

Thanks Alex for the quick reply - I can still view post counts and signatures - they don't show for you?
But.. thanks for pointing that out - as I just realized my signature was outdated, still listing Sonar X2a - so I just updated it.  Yes, I'm running 3D producer - with an RME UFX - all the latest drivers, etc.
 
Also. when you say 'embedded in the cakewalk project folder' - you're referring to the individual project folder per song, right?  I looked in there and didn't see anything except for the cwp file & and audio data directory containing the WAV files. 
 

So I've learnt today never to click on the "Essentials" button in the forums, thanks for letting me know I can now see footers, and yes I mean file not folder sorry.

So if the midi information is embedded within the cakewalk project file - how do I re-import it back into the track?  Is that possible?

karma1959
So if the midi information is embedded within the cakewalk project file - how do I re-import it back into the track?  Is that possible?

AFAIK, if the MIDI doesn't get loaded with the project, there's no way you can pick it from the project file.

I am confused by this post, so let me step back a second... when triggering a synth, MIDI data can be recorded, but the "Wave Form Preview" is essentially an "audio history" of the generated synth, and not an audio (wav) file. Is this what you are referring to?

Yes, MIDI data are saved as part of the CWP file. If they don't show up on re-opening, and it's not a display issue (e.g. hidden tracks, MIDI events start further out in the timeline, etc.), then something went wrong with the save and the MIDI data are likely not recoverable.

Mettelus -  Not, I recorded both audio and midi at the same time - no soft synths loaded.  I was tracking both a vocal mic and midi from V drums.  Upon conclusion of tracking, I saved the project - both the digital audio waveform (from the vocal recording) and the MIDI information (from the V drums) were both clearly visible in the track view, however shortly thereafter (about 30 seconds), Sonar crashed and once I restarted it and reopened the project, neither the digital audio nor the MIDI information was visible in the Track View.  I was able to reimport the wav file into the project for the digital audio, but wasn't able to find the midi file to reimport that.  
 
Thanks Brundlefly.  Very frustrating - something doesn't make sense, given I could see the data in the project AFTER I saved it.  I wonder if the crash started 20-30 seconds before the application actually freezing, thus causing something to go wrong during the save.  Very strange. 
 
 

I've never had a failure on save, but it does sound like that's what happened. Audio files are not deleted unless you close without saving, but the fact that the link to the file (i.e. the clip) was missing from the audio track also suggests that crash was due to the save process going awry. Definitely a bummer, but certainly not common. If it happens again, you should try to get a crash dump for Cakewalk dev to look at. Most likely some issue with plugin compatibility or a hardware issue on your PC (e.g. bad RAM).